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Leopold Morgan b 1875 South Africa and USA

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Sarah Anne

Sarah Anne Report 23 Mar 2010 23:50

I am trying to trace Leopold Morgan who went to South Africa to live. He had a son Harold Morgan. Leopold had a brother, also Harold and their father was James Henry Morgan who was born in Liverpool.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 23 Mar 2010 23:57

1881 England Census about James Henry Morgan
Name: James Henry Morgan
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Landsdown Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Anchor And Chain Cable Merchant
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Henry Morgan 44
Emma Elizabeth Morgan 42 sussex hailsham
Maud Mary Morgan 13
Harold Edward Morgan 8
Leopold Reynolds Morgan 5 b essex leytonstone
Elvira Adams 20 servant

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 24 Mar 2010 00:09

poss

Marriages Dec 1866
MORGAN James H Brighton 2b 319
Willard Emma E Brighton 2b 319

Sarah Anne

Sarah Anne Report 24 Mar 2010 10:50

Great this confirms what I know so far. Still do not know what happened to Leopold Morgan when he went to South Africa.

Dea

Dea Report 24 Mar 2010 11:22

Don't know if this is the same Leopold but Ancestry has this:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Leopold R Morgan
Name: Leopold R Morgan
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age: 49
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1925
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Queenstown
Ship Name: Carinthia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Carinthia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 147318

Accompanied by wife Beatrice (56) and son Harold G (14)

Proposed UK address:

11 Graham Rd., Purley but not intending to stay permanently - going on to 'Foreign Countries' ??

Leopold was a Banker.

All travelled 1st Class.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 24 Mar 2010 11:31

Well, it is certainly them - this is the family going out to USA.

passenger transcript details
Name: Leopold Reynolds MORGAN
Date of departure: 18 April 1922
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 46
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Banker

..........

Also:
Beatrice Manuel MORGAN (I believe this says Beatrice MAUD) !!
Harold Grant MORGAN

They had been staying at the Savoy Hotel, London.


Ship:

OLYMPIC
131346
A Hambelton
White Star Line
New York, USA
................

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 24 Mar 2010 11:42

He travelled alone on this journey - his last UK address was down as National Bank of South Africa, London.

passenger transcript details
Name: Leopold MORGAN
Date of departure: 30 September 1924
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 48
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Banker

Ship:

AQUITANIA
135583
J T W Charles
Cunard
New York, USA

Dea x


Dea

Dea Report 24 Mar 2010 11:58

Last one: - this time they said they were going to stay in USA permanently.

Last UK address 11 Graham Rd., Purley:

passenger transcript details
Name: Leopold MORGAN
Date of departure: 3 October 1924
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 48
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Banker


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mrs Beatrice MORGAN
Harold MORGAN

Ship:
SCYTHIA
143730
F G Brown
Cunard
New York, USA


They seem to have gone backwards + forwards a fair bit but if they went to S. Africa, it must have been from USA.

Dea x

Sarah Anne

Sarah Anne Report 24 Mar 2010 15:11

Fantastic, definitely the same Leopold and family as the Purley address is part of my history . Interesting about the travel to New York but maybe I have that wrong about South Africa. Can do more now I have more names and dates. Thanks.

Dea

Dea Report 24 Mar 2010 19:07

Hi,

Best to do what someone else suggested earlier and edit your title to include S. Africa so that people who are expert on this area will notice it!!

Also 'google' National Bank of South Africa - he was obviously a high flyer there in the '20's!!


Dea x

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 24 Mar 2010 20:27

Hello,

I looked for his death on ancestor.co.za (South Africa)

Found:

Leopold Reynolds Morgan - Date of death: 1944.

If you register with this site, then click on his name it comes up with this message:

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Apparently there is a lot of information on South African death notices, more than what you get on a british death cert.

Alison.

*Alison*

*Alison* Report 24 Mar 2010 20:32

Hi again,

just had another lookon that website, and found:

Beatrice maud Morgan - Died - 1942.

Alison.


website is www.ancestor.co.za

Sarah Anne

Sarah Anne Report 24 Mar 2010 20:49

All this info is great and the help everyone has given and ideas had pushed me forward.
Many thanks.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Oct 2014 18:50

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1345726

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