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Elaine

Elaine Report 7 Apr 2011 00:46

I have drawn a blank finding information about my great grandmother Lizzie O'Hara who was born in Belfast c1873 to Robert O'Hara and Annabelle (?) . At some point they moved to Glasgow where Lizzie married my great grandfather, John Cruickshank, on 25/8/1891

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Elaine

Astra

Astra Report 7 Apr 2011 07:07

Mother Agnes perhaps?

Lizzie O'hara
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Doum
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 19 Nueaton St
Occupation: Winder
ED: 77
Household schedule number: 67
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_242
Household Members: Name Age
Robert O'hara 48
Agnes O'hara 46
Lizzie O'hara 17
Robert O'hara 14
Agnes O'hara 12
Edmond McDowell 23
Alfred Maud 24

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Apr 2011 09:03

From IGI...Parents Robert Jones O'Hara and Agnes McMillan O'Hara....


1. Margaret Campbell O'Hara - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 OCT 1880 Belfast, Antrim, Ireland

2. MARGARET ELIZABETH O'HARA - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 JUN 1871 , Antrim, Ireland

3. Josephine Mc Millen O'Hara - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 MAR 1873 Antrim, Antrim, Ireland



5. Agnes Robertina O'Hara - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 JAN 1875 , Antrim, Ireland

If you check out the MC of Lizzie on Scotlands People it will give details of parents.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Apr 2011 09:25

Is this your Lizzie in 1901 please?

Name: Lizzie O Harard Cruickshank
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John Cruickshank
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 168/1
Registration district: St Nicholas
Civil parish: Aberdeen North
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 70 Wales Street
Occupation: House Wife
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_52
Household Members: Name Age
John Cruickshank 30
Lizzie O Harard Cruickshank 26
Robert Cruickshank 4
James Cruickshank 2
George Cruickshank 10 MO


I don't see her parents yet in 1901.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Apr 2011 09:31

This looks like her brother Robert living with her married sister Agnes in 1901. Could the parents have died or returned to Ireland? Have you looked on Scotlandspeople for possible deaths for them? Agnes's marriage certificate should say if they are deceased. On here it doesn't say if Robert (Junior) is a widower but that looks like his child Annabelle?

Name: Robert Ohara
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship: Brother In Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Springburn
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 3 River Street
Occupation: Boiler-man (tar)
ED: 123
Household schedule number: 59
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1901_279
Household Members: Name Age
William Harrison 26
Agnes Harrison 22
Jane Harrison 1
William Harrison 1mth
Robert Ohara 24
Annabella Ohara 4 Niece


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Apr 2011 09:38

I think we have two different O'Hara families. Here are the ones that Eringobragh has found on the IGI. They are living in Belfast in 1901.

Residents of a house 15 in Hillview Place (Shankhill, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
O'Hara Agnes R 24 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Carrickfergus Music Teacher Read and write - Not Married -
O'Hara Josephine 26 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Machinist Read and write - Not Married -
O'Hara Annie L 22 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Machinist Read and write - Not Married -
O'Hara Margery C 20 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Nurse Read and write - Not Married -
O'Hara Robert Jones 54 Male Father Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Watchmaker and Jeweller Read and write - Married -
O'Hara Frederick Wm 15 Male Son Wesleyan Methodist Wolfhill, Belfast Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
O'Hara Agnes Mc M 48 Female Wife Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Watchmaker and Jeweller Read and write - Married -


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Apr 2011 10:15

Thanks for the above rootgatherer........ Have found the following however no other children found....as yet.....There cannot be many Annabelles but Elaine doesn't say where she obtained that info.....


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Agnes O'Hara Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 13 JUL 1878 Antrim, Antrim, Ireland





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Parents:
Father: Robert O'Hara Family
Mother: Anabella McKibben OHara

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Apr 2011 10:20

Now that does look good Eringobragh! I do think that the mother was probably Anaabelle give that the son Robert seems to have named his daughter Annabelle.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Apr 2011 10:35

Have found an Annabelle McKibben b Belfast to Thomas McKibben and Anne Wallace but that is abt.1860...possible for Agnes but not for dob of Lizzie..!!
"Maura" needs to get in on this one...she can find a needle in a haystack..!!

Maura

Maura Report 7 Apr 2011 12:16

Morning Erin, right found these births for children of Robert O'Hara & a Ann/Anna/Anabella McKibben/McKibbin all born Belfast.

William James 1865
Anna Mary 1867
George Alexander 1869
Edward 1871
Eliza 1874
Robert 1876
Agnes 1878

Robert O'Hara married Anna McKibbin 27th November 1864 in Knockbreda C.O.I. Belfast Co.Down

Robert & Anna father's name is George

births & marriage on www.ancestryireland.com




Maura

Maura Report 7 Apr 2011 13:00

There's a death on Scotlandpeople for a Annabella O'Hara nee McKibben 1897 Bridgeton estimated year of birth 1845

Joy

Joy Report 7 Apr 2011 13:10

For anyone of Belfast ancestry, it is well worth looking / posting here -
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/

Joy

Joy Report 7 Apr 2011 13:13

I believe that her birth registration can be found here:
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
An index of Ireland civil registration including births, 1864-1958, marriages, 1845-1958, and deaths, 1864-1958.

Maura

Maura Report 7 Apr 2011 13:15

There's a tree on ancestry that has these people in it, they have Robert O'Hara sr. dying 1907, plus the have the name of the Annabella parents.

Maura

Maura Report 7 Apr 2011 14:28

Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: 331, BELFAST NO 4, ANT, IRE
Birth Date: 22 Jan 1874
Birthplace: Belfast No 4, Ant, Ire
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert O'Hara
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Mckibbin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:

Name: Robert O'Hara
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1876
Birthplace: Belfast, Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert O'Hara
Father's Birthplace: 51 Railway St.
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann O'Hara Mckibbin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00601-0
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 255944
Reference Number: v 1-1 p 329
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: George Alexander O'Hara
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 21 Aug 1869
Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert O'Hara
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Annie Mc Kibbin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01209-4
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101190
Reference Number: v 11-1 p 351
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: Anna Mary O Hara
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 11 Oct 1867
Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert O Hara
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anna Mc Kibben
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01185-0
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101155
Reference Number: v 16-1 p 332
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: Edward
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: 310, BELFAST NO 4, ANT, IRE
Birth Date: 09 Nov 1871
Birthplace: Belfast No 4, Ant, Ire
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert O Hara
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Annie Mc Kibbin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70146-5
System Origin: Ireland-VR
Source Film Number: 255832
Reference Number: - 2:2CSPMGC
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881


Name: William James Ohara
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1865
Birthplace: 0323,BELFAST,ANTRIM,IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Ohara
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Annie Mckibbin
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70126-7
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 101115
Reference Number:
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: Agnes O'Hara
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1878
Birthplace: Antrim, Antrim, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert O'Hara
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anabella Mckibben Ohara
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00745-8
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 256008
Reference Number: v 1-1 p 301
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2011 17:46

Thank you all for your replies and input...Lizzie Ohara's mother is definately Annabelle McKibben as I could see that on Lizzie's marriage certificate ..Thank you Maura, I can now add siblings to my great grandmother's side.

I have just discovered that I am actually the 2nd cousin (through Lizzie Ohara) of a family friend who's son was the best man at my daughter's wedding 3 years ago. A very small world indeed.

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Apr 2011 17:51

I am new to this and must say I am rather impressed at how helpful your replies have been...thanks again all.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 12 Apr 2011 09:11

Elaine, I don't know where you live but if you can manage to visit the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, they hold the Poor Relief Records. These can be very usueful when tracing Irish ancestors who cam to Glasgow. They often give more information than can be found elsewhere. Do remember that often people claimed because they needed hospital treatment and were no longer able to work. For example the family maybe have had to make a claim in 1907 when Robert died. Hope this helps and good luck with your research.

William

William Report 15 Nov 2015 12:41

You may get the result in census, birth, deaths. Among Scotlandspeople records