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help on Shea or O Shea please

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bokkie

bokkie Report 27 Aug 2008 21:22

SHEA or O SHEA
Hi - I seem to have hit a dead end.

Trying to find any information on Edward Shea born +- 1861 Ireland. (on one census has him down as born Dublin?)
m Sarah Ellan Anne Clifforth 11/10/1884 greenwich (cert shows his father as Edward Shea labourer residence P?ader St)
Children found
Edward Thomas b1885 d1893
Ellen Catherine b1887 m 12/4/1914 Frederick Eves d?
Joseph Patrick b 1890 d? m?
Sarah Elizabeth b 1892 d?
Florence Eliza b 1895 d?
William b 1899 d?
Emma b 1900 d?
Agnes Theresa b 1902 d?
John Francis b 1907 d RSA 1982 - my grandfather

Any help would be much appreciated.

Monique Wray

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2008 23:48

how about this - 1881 census

Edward SHEA Head M Male 50 Dublin, Ireland Gardener Domestic
Margaret SHEA Wife M Female 46 Dublin, Ireland
Edward SHEA Son U Male 20 Dublin, Ireland Post Man
Bessie SHEA Daur U Female 18 Dublin, Ireland Servant
John SHEA Son U Male 14 Dublin, Ireland Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 12 Garden Walk
Census Place Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341931
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3898 / 8
Page Number 10

bokkie

bokkie Report 12 Mar 2009 17:13

Thanks for this information but how do I go about getting records from ireland as in where they were born, marriage certificates.
I have managed to find a list of the entire family living in greenwich in the 1911 census which confirms the surname as O'Shea and I have applied for a copy of an Edward O'Sheas death certificate which may give me more information.

Potty

Potty Report 12 Mar 2009 17:22

Irish bmd indexes are on this site, on Record Search Pilot on dropdown menu under Search:

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

bokkie

bokkie Report 12 Mar 2009 23:27

Hi Anne of greengables
Just checked the 1891 census for the same family you gave me and it shows Edward still living at home which rules out this family as Edward Is already married by then and in 1891 census living with wife and family (census record has name as shea living @ 83 Roan st greenwich). I was all excited there for a second. All I do know is his fathers name is Edward as well.

So far I have found Edward O' Shea(Shea, Oshea) in the following census
1911 census head aged 50 total children born alive 11, 1 died and 10 still living shown as labourer docks born at sea, surname down as O' Shea, married 27yrs
1901 census Oshea (on paper O'shea) living at 14 woodwharf greenwich
1891 census shea living @ 83 Roan St greenwich

Regards
Monique

bokkie

bokkie Report 13 Mar 2009 00:04

Hi Potty
Thanks for the great website of which I found this marriage but do you know how I go about finding out the name of his spouse?

Name: Edward Shea
Registration district: Dublin South
Record type: MARRIAGES
Registration date - quarter and year: 1853
Estimated birth year:
Age:
Mother surnames:
Film number: 101244
Volume: 5
Page: 408
Digital GS number: 4195890
Image number: 00516
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958

Potty

Potty Report 13 Mar 2009 12:33

I think you would have to buy the cert but you couldn't be certain that this is your Edward. I have done a search for Edward b1861 in the index but nothing obvious is coming up.

bokkie

bokkie Report 4 Sep 2014 12:53

Still searching for anything on Edward Thomas O' Shea/Shea born 1861 Dublin. He was a merchant seaman and died in greenwich in the seamans hospital in 1915.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2014 13:04

This shows the names of others on the same page as Edward.

Name: Edward Shea
Date of Registration: 1853
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 5
Page Number: 408
FHL Film Number: 101244

Records on Page:
Name

Harriett McEniry
Rosina Dacombe
Edward Shea
Margaret Price
George Frederick Goold
Hugh Quinn
Rosina De Combe
Samuel Barrett
Catherine Boyd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Sep 2014 13:11

Looking at this birth, it would appear that the above Edward married Margaret Price.

Name: William Shea
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1865
Birth Place: Rathfarnham, Dublin, Ireland
Father's Name: Edward Shea
Mother's name: Margaret Price
FHL Film Number: 101106

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Sep 2014 13:15

Think this is the Bessie that Ann has posted

Name ELIZABETH ANNE SHEA
Date of Birth N/R N/R 1863
Address MARLEY
Father EDWARD SHEA
Mother MARGARET PRICE
Further details in the record
Child Denomination RC
Sponsor 1 MICHAEL ENNIS
Sponsor 2 JANE MOONEY
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
3 182 7 DU-RC-BA-34938

Parent's marriage

Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - RATHFARNHAM

Marriage of EDWARD SHEA of N/R and MARGT PRICE of N/R on 16 August 1853

Husband Wife
Name EDWARD SHEA MARGT PRICE
Address N/R N/R
Occupation N/R N/R
Father SHEA PRICE
Mother N/R N/R
Further details in the record
Husband Denomination RC
Husband Marital Status BA
Wife Denomination RC
Wife Marital Status S
Witness 1 PAT WARD
Witness 2 MARY HILL


http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

safc

safc Report 4 Sep 2014 13:25

Name: Edward Shea
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Margaret Price
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 16 Aug 1853
Event Place: Dublin South, Dub, Ire
Father's Name: Edward Shea
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: William Price
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70208-5
System Origin: Ireland-VR
GS Film number: 101346
Reference ID: 2:3F5FB68



Citing this Record:
"Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFJ-F9W : accessed 04 Sep 2014), Edward Shea and Margaret Price, 16 Aug 1853; citing Dublin South, Dub, Ire, reference 2:3F5FB68; FHL microfilm 101346.

Gritty

Gritty Report 4 Sep 2014 14:14

Only 1901 gives birth place of Ireland

1911 census states he was born at sea and gives a middle initial of T (or could be J?):

55 Roan Street Greenwich S E
Edward T O Shea Head Married Male 50 1861 At Sea Late Dock Labourer
Sarah A O Shea Wife - Female 49 1862 Greenwich -
Ellen C O Shea Daughter Married Female 23 1888 Greenwich -
Joseph P O Shea Son Single Male 21 1890 Greenwich Labourer
Sarah O Shea Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Greenwich Sack Minder
Florence O Shea Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Greenwich Servant
William O Shea Son - Male 13 1898 Greenwich School
Emma O Shea Daughter - Female 11 1900 Greenwich School
Agnes O Shea Daughter - Female 8 1903 Greenwich School
Gertie O Shea Daughter - Female 6 1905 Greenwich School
John O Shea Son - Male 4 1907 Greenwich -
Albert O Shea Son - Male 0 1911 Greenwich -

And if this is him in 1891 it states birth in Greenwich

Edward Shea Head Married Male 30 1861 Labourer Greenwich, Middlesex,
Sarah E Shea Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Greenwich, Middlesex
Edward Shea Son Male 6 1885 Scholar Greenwich, Middlesex
Ellen Shea Daughter Female 4 1887 - Greenwich, Middlesex,
Joseph Shea Son - Male 1 1890 - Greenwich, Middlesex,

Gritty

Gritty Report 4 Sep 2014 14:36

Not what you're looking for, but for your files:

Joseph Patrick O'Shea
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 24
Spouse: Amy Elizabeth Webb
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Oct 1914
Parish: Christ Church, Greenwich, East
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: Edward O'Shea -Labourer
Spouse Father: William Thomas Webb
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Thomas Watson & Edith Amelia Webb

Gritty

Gritty Report 4 Sep 2014 15:05

Just looking at the possible middle initial J or T on the 1911 census, and as he worked on the docks perhaps this is him in 1881?

Edward J. O'shea
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 370 Gt Howard St
Occupation: Seaman Engineer
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Piece: 3603
Folio: 145
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Margaret Maloney 50 Widower, Lodging H Keeper born Melling, Lancs
Sarah J. Rawlingson 37
Edward J. O'shea 21
Thomas Mitchell 32

Another possible for 1881- soldier, based in Kent:

Edward Shea
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Gender: Male
Where born: Abbylare ? Queens Co, Ireland
Civil Parish: Cheriton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: "Shorncliffe Camp" Cheriton
Occupation: Soldier
Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: Shorncliff Camp 1