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grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 12 Nov 2015 20:41

Yes, that 'em!

Andrew

Andrew Report 12 Nov 2015 20:19

Is this the correct family?


Name:
Eva Rodgers
Age:10
Estimated birth year:abt 1881
Relation:Granddaughter
Father's name:John Rodgers
Mother's name:Jane Rodgers
Gender:Female
Where born:Prees, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:Prees
Ecclesiastical parish:Fauls
County/Island:Shropshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration district:Wem
Sub registration district:Prees
ED, institution, or vessel:7
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:2124
Folio:55
Page Number:7
Household Members:
Name
Age


William Rodgers 82
John Rodgers 51
Jane Rodgers 40
John Rodgers 16
Alice Rodgers 14
George Rodgers 12
Eva Rodgers 10
Herbert Rodgers 8
Frederick Rodgers 5
Emily Rodgers 4
Lucy Rodgers 1

Andy

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 12 Nov 2015 19:44

I've managed to sort out Lucy now, but have another query.

OH and his sis remember an auntie Elsie, apparently sis to Eva. However I have no evidence of an Elsie in this family. There is Alice E, and I suppose it might turn out to be her after all. The only Elsie Rogers born around that time was in Oswestry, and I don't think it's her.

But now we've found a postcard in MIL's stuff. It's a photo of the old Smithy (I've been there, it's a house now). The card was posted in Whitchurch, in 1938, and says
'Dear Eva, just been through the old homestead which is now empty. Just going to see mother's grave. Love Elsie and Will'

So Elsie does appear to be Eva's sis, there is no brother Will so she's not a sis in law.

I have censuses, in 1901, mother Jane was a widow with a blacksmith business, and some of her children were living with her. Jane must have moved to Manchester soon after with some of her daughters, as she remarries the same year a Frederick C Mason. In 1911 they live in Gorton with Lucy. Eva also lives in the Manchester area, having married in 1906.

Can anyone shed any light on where Elsie fits in please?

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 26 Oct 2015 16:31

So I have this Rogers family, they had more children after 1881,

Herbert 1883, Frederick 1886, Emily 1887 and Lucy 1890.

The older sister Eva Jane moved to Manchester, married there and moved to Morecambe.

Now according to MIL, (who was at least vague, and often wrong), the sister Lucy also settled in Morecambe, having married a man surname Leigh, they had a son Norman, who MIL disliked because 'of the way he treated his mother'. Norman married and had a son in about 1951.

I cannot find a marriage for Lucy in freeBMD, well, there is one in Eastry, but that couple have a number of children born around the same time as Norman, 1924.
Nor can I find a death for Lucy which was probably in the late 1950's/early sixties.

So I'm looking for a marriage for Lucy Rogers to Mr Leigh, a marriage for Norman Leigh who had a son about 1951, a death for Lucy Leigh.

Can anyone help please?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Mar 2010 00:40

Yes oon one census I looked at William was down as Blacksmith employing one man.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Mar 2010 00:38

It just say sarah 11 female servant and I take it her brother is a blacksmith. Have you got Bennett's then?

I was wondering if Richard was William's brother? Or cousin?

Gooing off now as it's late night all.

Mel

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 21 Mar 2010 00:32

wonder if the Bennetts are nephew and niece? though Mary's maiden name was Davis.

Thanks for your help everyone, I've got some mulling to do now!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Mar 2010 00:27

Oh well done Carol!!!!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Mar 2010 00:18

So not anywhere near any of those I posted then?

So would Wem be nearer?

Valerie

Valerie Report 21 Mar 2010 00:18

Not sure if this helps but in my tree I have a William Rogers married a Mary Kynaston and they had several children I have a John 1830 Jane 1836 Mary Sarah 1826 and William 1827. According to my 2nd cousins in Wem they had a lot to do with Blacksmiths I think I was told the kynaston's had a Foundry.
Regards Val

PS. All Grandmothers side come from Loppington Wem

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 21 Mar 2010 00:07

Madeley is south of Telford, near Ironbridge.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 23:46

I don't know the area at all. There are quite a few William Rogers born 1810/11 in Shropshire on IGI.
where is Madley near then please?

William Rogers - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 APR 1810 Oswestry, Shropshire, England

8. William Rogers - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 JUL 1810 Morton Chapel, Oswestry, Shropshire, England

9. William Rogers - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 APR 1810 Oswestry, Shropshire, England

10. WM. ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 DEC 1810 Newport, Shropshire, England

11. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 SEP 1810 Stirchley, Shropshire, England

12. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 04 NOV 1810

13. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 APR 1810

14. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 APR 1810 Oswestry, Shropshire, England

15. WM. ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 JUL 1810

16. WM. ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1810 Oswestry, Shropshire, England

17. William Rogers - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 JUL 1810 Morton Chapel, Oswestry, Shropshire, England

18. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 MAR 1810 Saint Chad, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

19. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 05 MAY 1811

20. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 MAY 1811 Worfield, Shropshire, England

21. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 SEP 1811 Kinnerley, Shropshire, England

22. WILLIAM ROGERS OR TAYLOR - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 SEP 1811 Worthen, Shropshire, England

23. WILLIAM ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 AUG 1811 Wem, Shropshire, England

24. WM. ROGERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 OCT 1811 Condover, Shropshire

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 23:41

Can't seem to find them on the 1841??

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 20 Mar 2010 23:35

Thanks carol.
Mel, William says he was born in Madeley, quite a way from Prees, though I suppose if he wasn't baptised 'til age 1, they might have moved.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 23:28

I've done those Carol.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 23:26

WILLIAM ROGERS Pedigree
Male

Christening: 20 SEP 1812 Prees, Shropshire, England

Age at Christening: 1

Parents:
Father: JOHN ROGERS Family
Mother: ANN


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 23:13

Again a submitted record.

John Rogers Pedigree
Male Family


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 MAR 1845 Smethcott, , Shropshire, England

Marriages:
Spouse: Jane Bennett Family
Marriage: 18 FEB 1873 Stottesden, Shropshire, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 23:07

1881 England Census
about William Rogers
Name: William Rogers
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Madeley, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address: Blacksmiths Shop
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Blacksmith

Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Rogers 70

John is with him with his wife Jane and their children but Ancestry have not transcribed them in the same house.

William Rogers abt 1811 Madeley, Shropshire, England Head Prees, Shropshire
View Record

John Rogers Jane abt 1839 Prees, Shropshire, England Head Prees, Shropshire
View Record

Jane Rogers John abt 1851 Sibford, Oxfordshire, England Wife Prees, Shropshire
View Record

Mary Rogers John,
Jane abt 1874 Ightfield, Shropshire, England Daughter Prees, Shropshire
View Record

John Rogers John,
Jane abt 1876 Ightfield, Shropshire, England Son Prees, Shropshire
View Record

Alice E. Rogers John,
Jane abt 1877 Prees, Shropshire, England Daughter Prees, Shropshire
View Record

George Rogers John,
Jane abt 1879 Prees, Shropshire, England Son Prees, Shropshire
View Record

Eva J. Rogers John,
Jane Prees, Shropshire, England Daughter Prees, Shropshire

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 22:58

1851 England Census
about Fanny Rogers
Name: Fanny Rogers
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Prees, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Sandford
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Wem
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
William Rogers 40 1811 Madeley, Shropshire
Mary Rogers 47 1804 Prees, Shropshire
Eliza Rogers 13
John Rogers 4
William Rogers 9
Anne Rogers 6
Fanny Rogers 4
William Davies 17

Only a submitted record!!


William ROGERS Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Mary DAVIES Family
Marriage: 22 FEB 1836 Prees, Shropshire, England


Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Mar 2010 22:58

On that 1861 I just put up John is a Blacksmith and William is a Apprentice Blacksmith. and there is only 1 page.