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Hiya

Can anyone help me find his birth PLEASE!!!!!!! I have no idea where he was born, family members think it may be Hereford/Welsh borders - but so far have found no recorded birth of the three names in that particular order.

I have his marriage certificate in 1936 to Ada K Elsom in Birmingham West Midlands and also his death cert in 1957, again in Birmingham BUT in the name of James Albert Thomas Jones, the family provided me with these certs. His brother in law recorded his death and family think he just got the names in the wrong order.

The Jones side called him Bert but to the Elsom side he was known as James..

I am hoping that I have missed something glaringly obvious in solving my problem and would love some of you to put me straight

thanks for reading this regards Linda

Have you seen this ome?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Thomas James A Jones Name: Thomas James A Jones
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1910
Registration district: Upton On Severn
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c

Andy

What are his father's details from his marriage cert plase?

Plus any other details from there, including witnesses.

Dea x

what was his fathers name and occupation on the marriage cert

Roy

Hi Andy Thanks for that


Hi Dea his father as Allen Jones and was a foreman in a motor works


regards Linda

Hi Roy

his father Allen Jones and he was foreman in motor works


Linda

Could some kind soul with a sub please check this 1911 census out

HOUSEHOLD JONES ALBERT M 1910 11 MONTHS Upton on Severn Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD JONES LUCY F 1888 23 Upton on Severn Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD JONES ALLEN M 1886 25 Upton on Severn Worcestershire

Andy

BINGO - ........... I think ???

JONES, Allen Head Married M 25 1886 Coachbody Maker Herefordshire Much Marcle
JONES, Lucy Wife F 23 1888 Gloucestershire Dymock JONES,
Albert Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Worcestershire Malvern
GLADWIN, Selwyn Boarder Single M 22 1889 Coachpainter Gloucestershire Dymock
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17658 Reference:
RG14PN17658 RG78PN1080A RD378 SD1 ED11 SN83

Registration District:
Upton on Severn Sub District:
Malvern Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Guarlford

Address:
8 Barbers Hill Malvern County:
Worcestershire



Dea x

Oohhh Andy - I had just found that one also (posted above) - I believe we have them !!

Dea x :-D

ANDY, DEA YOUR ARE ABSOLUTE STARS!!!!!!!! I talked to my friend whose tree it is and he didn't think the Upton on Severn was right but HE WAS WRONG!!!

thank you both - see it was obvious to you but not me so thanks soooooooo much happy hunting Linda

You are very welcome Linda.

We are always glad to help.

Dea x

Happy to help Linda

Dea, Great minds.....!

Being Albert on census would explain why he was known as Bert.

Andy

Hi, My great grandad was Selwyn Gladwin and he's the boarder in 1911 census. His trade was coachpainter, and I know definitely that after 1912 he worked at Sunbeam but that was Wolverhampton. I wondered if they were colleagues (as Allen is coach builder) or as there is a Dymock link, if they were related in some way. The lady he married (Kate Elsie King) had a grandmother whose surname was Allen. I would love to hear any info you have on this
Best wishes
Emma

Emma
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Hi Emma and welcome to the boards.

If you ned help on tracing your Selwyn it would be best to start a new thread on here rather than tag onto the end of this very old one.

In case it helps, here is Selwyn mistranscribed on 1891 with his parents and widowed grand-father:


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Great Woodend Cottage, Great Woodend, Dymock, Newent, Gloucestershire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Gladwin Head Married Male 50 1841 Agricultural Laborer Kempley, Gloucestershire, England
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Fanny Gladwin Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Aston Ingham, Herefordshire, England
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Albert E Gladwin Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
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Sidney P Gladwin Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
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Emily Gladwin Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
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***Satwin Gladwin Son - Male 3 1888 - Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
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Elizabeth C Wood Niece - Female 7 1884 - Dymock, Gloucestershire, England
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Charles Griffin Father In Law Widower Male 74 1817 Agricultural Laborer Gloucestershire, England.

If you need anything further please start your own thread and we can continue on there.

Dea x