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Arthur Frank Furr 1910

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Nickif65

Nickif65 Report 3 Feb 2014 16:28

Hi All,
I am looking for info on Arthur Frank Furr born c1910. He was the first husband of my Grandmother, Dorothy Emily May Cook 1905 - 1970. I believe he was from Hitchin Hertfordshire. In 1933 the couple had their second child, a daughter named Muriel Evelyn Furr. In about August Dorothy had taken their son, Trevor Ainsley Furr 1931- to the circus. Whilst there Arthur apparently MURDERED Muriel who was 7 weeks old. He claims that he dropped her.
I have found newspaper articles dated 29th Aug 1933 and 6th Sept 1933, but nothing for later. I would like to know if he got sentenced, pleaded insanity etc. No one in the family knows what happened to him after the murder and we are now interested to find out. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

Astra

Astra Report 3 Feb 2014 16:33

???

Civil Registration event: Birth


Name: FURR, Hylie Arthur F
Registration district: Hitchin
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1910
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 805

Mike *

Mike * Report 3 Feb 2014 16:34


Is this not his death ?

Deaths Mar 1963
FURR ARTHUR F - 68 - SURREY N. 5G 708


EDIT :

Not him, this birth corresponds
Births Jun 1894
Furr Arthur Frederick - Richmond S 2a 386

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 16:41


1911 census transcription details for: 18 Bedford St Hitchin Hertfordshire

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN7594 RG78PN372 RD136 SD2 ED5 SN55
Reg. District: Hitchin
Sub District: Hitchin
Parish: Hitchin Urban
Enum. District: 5
Address: 18 Bedford St Hitchin Hertfordshire
County: Hertfordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WIGGS, James Head Married
42 years M 65 1846 Blacksmith Striker G N Rly Hitchin Herts
WIGGS, Ann Wife Married
42 years F 68 1843 St Spollits Herts
FURR, Minnie Daughter Married F 33 1878 St Spollits Herts
FURR, Arthur Grandson M 1 1910 Hitchin Herts

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2014 16:42

This looks to be him in 1911:-

1911 England Census about Arthur Furr
Name: Arthur Furr
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Grand Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin Urban
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 18 Bedford St, Hitchin, Herts
Registration District: Hitchin
Registration District Number: 136
Sub-registration District: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 7594
Household Members:
Name Age
James Wiggs 65
Ann Wiggs 68
Minnie Furr 33
Arthur Furr 1

Maybe you could try and contact others searching this family to see if they know what happened to him?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Frank Furr
Name: Frank Furr
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1908
Registration District: Hitchin
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1425
Records on Page:
Name
xxxx Frank Furr
xxxx Minnie Wiggs
Clara Woodman
Thomas Worbey

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:43

Start by finding accurate birth info

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:44

When/where was the marriage to Cook?

EDIT

Found...........

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
Cook Dorothy E M Fun Hitchin 3a 1930
Furr Arthur F Cook Hitchin 3a 1930

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2014 16:46

Have you got the marriage certificate for the name of his father?

Have you got Dorothy's second marriage certificate for her state?

Thanks

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 16:47

Maybe he remarried do you know when he and Dorothy divorced?

MarriageFinder: Arthur F Furr married Maggie Macdonagh
Name: FURR, Arthur F
Registration district: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Macdonagh
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 2111

Name: MACDONAGH, Maggie
Registration district: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Furr
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 2111

So if this is him he wasn't in jail etc

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2014 16:48

This could be Frank Furr?

1911 England Census about Frank Furr
Name: Frank Furr
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin Urban
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Lancaster Road, Hitchin, Herts
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Carpenter Builder
Registration District: Hitchin
Registration District Number: 136
Sub-registration District: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 151
Piece: 7591
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Furr 46
Fred Furr 12
Mildred Louise Furr 11

............states married for 2yrs.

Same person in 1901 with first wife:-

1901 England Census about Frank Furr
Name: Frank Furr
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Louisa Furr
Birth Place: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin
Town: Hitchin
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Journeyman Carpenter

Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Furr 36
Louisa Furr 33
Frank Furr 6
Frederick Furr 2
Mildred Furr 1

...................................Just a few more names you can put in "search trees" to see if you can find a connection.

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2014 16:51

Not saying that this is related, but change of surname from Furr to Farr:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/41803/pages/5486/page.pdf

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2014 16:53

?
Arthur Frank Farr
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1910
Date of Registration: Oct 1994
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Westminster
Inferred County: London
Register Number: E36C
District and Subdistrict: 2581E
Entry Number: 77

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:53

Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)

Appleby Gordon H Furr Bedford 3b 875
Appleby Gordon H Cook Bedford 3b 875
Cook Dorothy E M Appleby Bedford 3b 875
Furr Dorothy E M Appleby Bedford 3b 875

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:54

Nice one, Pat...........

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 16:55

So remarried the same year
Name: Dorothy E M Furr
Spouse Surname: Appleby
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration District: Bedford
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 875
Find Spouse: Gordon H Appleby .



Name: Dorothy Emily Appleby
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1905
Date of Registration: Dec 1970
Age at Death: 65
Registration District: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 4a
Page: 328

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2014 16:58

patchem,

Have had a look and name is definately Arthur Frank Furr (known as Arthur Frank Farr) so looks as though he could have changed his name.

occupation: Builder and Decorator

Nickif65

Nickif65 Report 3 Feb 2014 17:03

@patchem......Yes I have Dorothys 2nd marriage certificate and it says she was divorced from Arthur, so we know he was alive in 1938. I to saw the change of name article and wondered if it was the same man. Am going to look further into it.

@Catherine... Good idea, I will look for other families etc who were connected to him, but from the looks of it he was either orphaned or adopted out to family members, but its something to look into.

@All the other wonderful people...You have all given me some ideas which I will investigate, but what I really wanted to know was what happened to him after the death of his daughter Muriel.

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 17:11

He remarried
I posted the marriage detail

Look on FreeBMD they had two children mmn down a McDonagh

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 17:29

Have you got the death cert of Muriel to see what info it may give ?

Name: Muriel E Furr
Birth Date: abt 1933
Date of Registration: Sep 1933
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Hitchin
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 733

Nickif65

Nickif65 Report 3 Feb 2014 18:21

@Shirley.....No I havent got Muriels death certificate yet, but its an idea to get it. Just cant afford to keep buying certificates and have just ordered two.
Also yes those details you found is def my Grandmother Dorothy.

I wonder if Arthur changed his name after leaving prison or something, but only changing one letter is not very adventurous, lol.

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