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Arthur Frank Furr 1910

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2014 19:44

Why does the divorce record on National Archives give his middle name as JACK? (Could be a mistranscription?)

Reference:J 77/3761/4585
Description: Divorce Court
File: 4585.

Appellant: Dorothy Emily May Furr.
Respondent: Arthur Jack Furr.
Type: Wife's petition for divorce [wd].

Date: 1937
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Language: English

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2014 19:37

I think the man certainly had problems, in October 1932 he was charged with trying to obtain money (£10) by menace from a nurse. His defence stated he was desperate fro money to feed and clothe his wife and child.

This was in the Gloucester Citizen, Wednesday 19 October 1932

Mike *

Mike * Report 3 Feb 2014 19:37

Shirley how do you know that marriage is the same Arthur F Furr ?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Feb 2014 19:30

Nicki - I don't think he did go to prison. There are quite a number of newspaper reports in the archives on FindMyPast. Haven't read them all yet but in the Hull Daily Mail of 06 September 1933 it implies that although the inquest had given a verdict of murder when it came to the police courts there may have been a change.

One extract:

"The possibility of an accident, however, could not be ruled out" (This after medical evidence stating considerable force would have been needed for the injuries sustained).

another:

"The magistrates held that there was not a prima facie case for committing Furr for trial for murder" (It does go on to say he was committed for trial on a coroner's warrant).

Will read some more ....

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 18:26

Nicki

He remaried Maggie Macdonagh in 1938

copied from my posting above at 16.47


MarriageFinder: Arthur F Furr married Maggie Macdonagh
Name: FURR, Arthur F
Registration district: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Macdonagh
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 2111

Name: MACDONAGH, Maggie
Registration district: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Furr
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 2111

They had two children 1939 and 1941 mmn recorded as McDonagh

Nickif65

Nickif65 Report 3 Feb 2014 18:21

@Shirley.....No I havent got Muriels death certificate yet, but its an idea to get it. Just cant afford to keep buying certificates and have just ordered two.
Also yes those details you found is def my Grandmother Dorothy.

I wonder if Arthur changed his name after leaving prison or something, but only changing one letter is not very adventurous, lol.

;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 17:29

Have you got the death cert of Muriel to see what info it may give ?

Name: Muriel E Furr
Birth Date: abt 1933
Date of Registration: Sep 1933
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Hitchin
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 733

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 17:11

He remarried
I posted the marriage detail

Look on FreeBMD they had two children mmn down a McDonagh

Nickif65

Nickif65 Report 3 Feb 2014 17:03

@patchem......Yes I have Dorothys 2nd marriage certificate and it says she was divorced from Arthur, so we know he was alive in 1938. I to saw the change of name article and wondered if it was the same man. Am going to look further into it.

@Catherine... Good idea, I will look for other families etc who were connected to him, but from the looks of it he was either orphaned or adopted out to family members, but its something to look into.

@All the other wonderful people...You have all given me some ideas which I will investigate, but what I really wanted to know was what happened to him after the death of his daughter Muriel.

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2014 16:58

patchem,

Have had a look and name is definately Arthur Frank Furr (known as Arthur Frank Farr) so looks as though he could have changed his name.

occupation: Builder and Decorator

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 16:55

So remarried the same year
Name: Dorothy E M Furr
Spouse Surname: Appleby
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration District: Bedford
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 875
Find Spouse: Gordon H Appleby .



Name: Dorothy Emily Appleby
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1905
Date of Registration: Dec 1970
Age at Death: 65
Registration District: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 4a
Page: 328

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:54

Nice one, Pat...........

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:53

Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)

Appleby Gordon H Furr Bedford 3b 875
Appleby Gordon H Cook Bedford 3b 875
Cook Dorothy E M Appleby Bedford 3b 875
Furr Dorothy E M Appleby Bedford 3b 875

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2014 16:53

?
Arthur Frank Farr
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1910
Date of Registration: Oct 1994
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Westminster
Inferred County: London
Register Number: E36C
District and Subdistrict: 2581E
Entry Number: 77

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2014 16:51

Not saying that this is related, but change of surname from Furr to Farr:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/41803/pages/5486/page.pdf

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2014 16:48

This could be Frank Furr?

1911 England Census about Frank Furr
Name: Frank Furr
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin Urban
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Lancaster Road, Hitchin, Herts
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Carpenter Builder
Registration District: Hitchin
Registration District Number: 136
Sub-registration District: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 151
Piece: 7591
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Furr 46
Fred Furr 12
Mildred Louise Furr 11

............states married for 2yrs.

Same person in 1901 with first wife:-

1901 England Census about Frank Furr
Name: Frank Furr
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Louisa Furr
Birth Place: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin
Town: Hitchin
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Journeyman Carpenter

Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Furr 36
Louisa Furr 33
Frank Furr 6
Frederick Furr 2
Mildred Furr 1

...................................Just a few more names you can put in "search trees" to see if you can find a connection.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Feb 2014 16:47

Maybe he remarried do you know when he and Dorothy divorced?

MarriageFinder: Arthur F Furr married Maggie Macdonagh
Name: FURR, Arthur F
Registration district: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Macdonagh
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 2111

Name: MACDONAGH, Maggie
Registration district: Hendon
County: Middlesex
Year of registration: 1938
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Furr
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 2111

So if this is him he wasn't in jail etc

patchem

patchem Report 3 Feb 2014 16:46

Have you got the marriage certificate for the name of his father?

Have you got Dorothy's second marriage certificate for her state?

Thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:44

When/where was the marriage to Cook?

EDIT

Found...........

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
Cook Dorothy E M Fun Hitchin 3a 1930
Furr Arthur F Cook Hitchin 3a 1930

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Feb 2014 16:43

Start by finding accurate birth info

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/