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Cecil James Martin 1894

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Rondog

Rondog Report 5 Mar 2014 17:35

James was born 2 February 1894 in Southwark, Westminster of Arthur Cecil Martin (1867-1932) and Elizabeth Marshall (1871-1899).
I have tried my hardest and can find nothing on him since the 1901 Census when he was staying with his Aunt, Mrs Rowena Dinger (nee Marshall).

Can anyone help please?

He was my grandfathers son by his first wife!

Rondog :-S

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Mar 2014 18:07

Name:James Cecil Martin (as Cecil James on image)
Baptism Date:25 Mar 1894 (Born 6 Feb 1894)
Father's Name:Arthur Cecil Martin (Machine Minder?)
Mother's name:Elizabeth Martin
Parish or Poor Law Union:St George the Martyr
Borough:Southwark
Register Type:Parish Registers
(abode, 223, Scovell Road)


1901 (reference)
DINGER, Arthur Head Married M 31 1870 Contractors Clerk
Shoreditch, London
DINGER, Rosina Wife Married F 25 1876
Westminster, London
DINGER, Ethel Wife Married F 5 1896
Westminster, London
MARTIN, Cecil Visitor Single M 7 1894
Southwark, London
Piece: 227
Folio: 14
Page: 20
Registration District: Hackney
Civil Parish: Hackney
Municipal Borough:
Address: 49, Middleton Road, Hackney
County: London


Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Dinger Arthur Adolphus St.Saviour 1d 251
Marshall Rosina St. Saviour 1d 251


Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Marshall Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 317
Martin Arthur Cecil St.Saviour 1d 317

Chris :)

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Mar 2014 18:07

I wonder ??

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Cecil J Martin
Name: Cecil J Martin
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Birth Date: abt 1894
Departure Date: 19 Sep 1901
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Tunisian
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Tunisian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Allan Line
Master: A H Paron

all the passengers were children

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Mar 2014 18:08

He may have gone to Canada?

Cecil James Martin in entry for Baby Martin, "Ontario Deaths,1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947"
Name: Baby Martin
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 15 Aug 1923
Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1923
Birthplace: Toronto

Father's Name: Cecil James Martin

Mother's Name: Mary Martin
Spouse's Name:
Reference ID: yr 1923 cn 6248
GS Film number: 1976685
Digital Folder Number: 4171320
Image Number: 484



Name: Cecil J Martin
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: Sep 1901
Event Place: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Birth Year (Estimated): 1894
Birthplace: England
Ship Name: Tunisian
Affiliate Publication Number:
Affiliate Film Number: T-480
Digital Folder Number: 004541768
Image Number: 00799
Place of ultimate destination:- Peterboro

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Mar 2014 18:09

I don't have ancestry world wide so can't view to see if this is him:-

Cecil James Martin
Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Mar 2014 18:14

just in case

Name: Baby Martin
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 15 Aug 1923
Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1923
Birthplace: Toronto
Birth Year (Estimated):
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Father's Name: Cecil James Martin
Mother's Name: Mary Martin
Spouse's Name:
Reference ID: yr 1923 cn 6248
GS Film number: 1976685
Digital Folder Number: 4171320
Image Number: 484

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Mar 2014 18:19

Rondog,
You may want to add (possibly Canada) to your heading so our Canadian cousins can take a look just in case the above does relate to him.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Mar 2014 18:23

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
Name:Cecil James Martin
Residence:Toronto, Ontario
Birth Date:7 Feb 1894
Birth Location:London, England
Relative:Mrs Daisy Lee
Relationship:Aunt (44, Camberwell Road, London)
Trade/Calling: Lunch Business
Present Address: 190, Simcoe Street, Toronto, Ont.
Dated 3/1/1916

Chris :)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 5 Mar 2014 18:24

Records of Canadian soldiers WW1 are free here:

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 5 Mar 2014 18:30

He was a home child:

Home Children (1869-1930)
Item Display
Return to results | Search | Search HelpSurname: MARTINGiven Name: Cecil JAge: 7Sex: MShip: TunisianYear of Arrival: 1901Departure Port: LiverpoolDeparture Date: 1907-09-19Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 1901-09-27Party: Barnardo HomesComments: Group of 117 children from Dr.Barnardo's to Toronto and Manitoba.Source: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG 76 C1aMicrofilm: T-480Type of Record: Passenger ListsGroup of Children Traveling Together

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 5 Mar 2014 18:35

Did he have siblings? There were 5 other Martin children on that ship:

Rosa 15
Mary 14
George 11
Alice 10

Dea

Dea Report 5 Mar 2014 18:59

This is a link to the Canadian 1911 census image which may well be him.

He was born Feb 1894, though it has him down as Irish?

Do you think his parents might have been Irish?

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001997413.jpg

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Mar 2014 19:04

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1244355?d=asc

(relating info.)

Chris :)

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name:Cecil J Martin Occupation:Clerk
Year:1935
Location:Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Electoral District:Vancouver North (Pandora, 4115)
(also Martin, Mrs. Cecil J. Housewife)

Cecil James Martin (no,looks like Marriage 1920, Frances Mary Rothwell, James Martin, Father)
Occupation:Retired
Year:1965
Location:Broadview, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District:Broadview
(also Mary Martin)

Cecil James Martin
Occupation:Retired
Year:1968
Location:Burnaby; Seymour, British Columbia, Canada
Electoral District:Burnaby-Seymour

(not sure if relating)

Rondog

Rondog Report 12 Apr 2014 21:56

Many thanks to Chris, Maddie, Catherine and Margee; you have been a big help.
For Dea, Cecil was not of Irish descent.
Need to do some more investigating, as you said, through our Canadian cousins.
Thanks again.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Apr 2014 23:36

Another related thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1339394?jump=1339394