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Could someone with WW access please do me a look up on 1921 Canada Census for:

Dorothy Mildred MacArthur
Birth Approx 1920 in British Columbia
Death 15 May 1977 in Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada

Timeline

Birth
1920 Approx
British Columbia

Residence
1921 1 Jun — Age: 1
Gibson's Landing, Comox, British Columbia, Canada
Age: 1; Marital Status: Single; Relation to Head of House: Daughter


Thank you,

Dea Xxx

1921 Census of Canada
about Dorothy Mildred Mc Arthur Name: Dorothy Mildred Mc Arthur
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Birth Year: abt 1920
Birth Place: British Columbia
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: John Mc Arthur
Father Birth Place: Ontario
Mother's name: Mildred Mc Arthur
Mother Birth Place: Ontario
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Province or Territory: British Columbia
District: Comox
District Number: 15
Sub-District: Gibson´s Landing
Sub-District Number: 25
City, Town or Village: Gibson's Landing
Street or Township: Roberts Creek East Gibson's Landing
Municipality: Unorganiced
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Arthur 42
Mildred Mc Arthur 37
Jack Duke Mc Arthur 11
Audrey Aileen Mc Arthur 4
Dorothy Mildred Mc Arthur 1

Parents both born Ontario, children born BC.

Do you know of this site for vital statistics in BC?

http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm

Thank you SO much Margee x

Yes - I have the bcarchives site for BMD's etc - it was just the census I needed access to which isn't on there.

Does it say what John's occupation was please?

Dea Xxx

Could this be the family in 1911? Badly transcribed!

1911 Census of Canada
about Jack McAttias Name: Jack McAttias
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Birth Date: Apr 1910
Birthplace: British Columbia
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: John McAttias
Mother's name: Mildsor McAttias
Tribal: Scotch (Scotish)
Province: British Columbia
District: Vancouver
District Number: 12
Sub-District: Vancouver City
Sub-District Number: 41
Place of Habitation: 1354 8th A W
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John McAttias 28
Mildsor McAttias 22
Jack McAttias 1

Writing on original is horrible, I think it's MacArthur.

He's a grocer in 1911, a retailer of groceries in 1921.

Thank you Margee.

I have just found a tree on Ancestry which has Dorothy Mildred married to a 'mystery ancester' of my husband's. (Clifford Shaw)

I thought I had 'struck gold' as he has been a long standing brick wall for me.

However, I have just downloaded a death cert which they have linked to Dorothy (death 1977) but 'that' Dorothy seems to have been married to a "William Ernest" Shaw so I am now not sure.

I have to go out just now but I will do some more digging on this when I get back.

Thanks for your help,

Dea Xxx

Is this your Clifford, Dea?

Vital Event Death Registration

Name: Clifford Shaw

Event Date: 1979 3 28 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 66
Gender: male
Event Place: Vancouver

Reg. Number: 1979-09-005453
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13594
GSU Microfilm Number: 2051229


He is on his own in these.

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Clifford Shaw
Name: Clifford Shaw
Occupation: Janitor
Year: 1962
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Electoral District: Vancouver South
8856 Selkirk Street, Apt 13



Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Clifford Shaw
Name: Clifford Shaw
Occupation: Civil-Servant
Year: 1963
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Electoral District: Vancouver South
Same address as above.


You probably already have all this and I have seen the tree on ancestry which does name Dorothy as his wife.

This may be William.

Name: William Ernest Shaw
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1920
Death Age: 58
Death Date: 10 Mar 1978
Death Location: Vedder Crossing
Registration Number: 1978-09-004603
BCA Number: B13584
GSU Number: 2051143


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedder_River

The Vedder River, called the Chilliwack River above Vedder Crossing, is a river in the Canadian province of British Columbia and the U.S. state of Washington.


Another tree on ancestry has this lady married to him.



Dorothy (Dot ) Mildred TOUSSAINT
Birth 19 Jan, 1920 in Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Death 15 May, 1977 in Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 about Dorothy M Toussaint
Name: Dorothy M Toussaint
Mother's Maiden Surname: Barton
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1695


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Dorothy M Toussaint
Name: Dorothy M Toussaint
Spouse Surname: Shaw
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1944
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1073
Find Spouse: William Shaw

I'm back!

The grand-children are off school for Easter so we took them out for the day :-)

Thank you for the extra info Aviegal - Yes, that is 'my' Clifford.

I had the death info but not the electoral register details.

I get the impression that he was either seperated from or divorced from his wife when their 3 children were quite small.

That does look like the William Ernest Shaw who married a Dorothy Mildred Toussaint and the death cert from Dorothy Midred Shaw death which is mentioned in the Ancestry tree is therefore NOT the one for Clifford's wife who 'may or may not' have been a Dorothy Muriel MacArthur !! :-S

I have contacted the tree owner to see if they know anything else but am waiting for a reply.

It is such a shame that we are unable to look up marriages for around 1940/1941 in Canada as this would give me a lot of answers.

Thanks to both for your help,

Dea Xxx

You're welcome Dea. Shame we seem to be stuck now but I really think that the tree owner with that death certificate has gone down the wrong path with Clifford's wife. Perhaps they know more about Clifford though...? The other tree does seem to be well researched.

Liz x

Which other tree is that please??

Dea xxx

Dea - FYI everyone has full access to the 1921 census right now, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991

I presume you've come across:
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch
although they're not completely digitized - if you come across one that's not digitized, check back in a few months time.

The following is handy up to the mid-1950s:
http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/index.php

Dorothy Louise McArthur 29/12/1909-27/1/1991, pob=Kelliher SK,
widow/o George Edward McArthur, d/o George Jobin & Elizabeth Head
so this lass:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002096682.pdf

Her sister:
Registration Number: 2372
Last Name: JOBIN
First Name: JESSIE ELIZABETH MAY
Sex: F
Birth Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 1905 / 12 / 29
Place of Birth: LEBRET Mother ELIZABETH HEAD
Father GEORGE STAFFORD JOBIN
http://genealogy.ehealthsask.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx


I presume she's of no interest - IF I'M WRONG, POST ON THREAD.


Incidently, Comox is a pretty big electoral riding.
To get from Roberts Creek to Comox takes a 60km drive, then a 60m ferry trip, then another 35km drive, and an 80m ferry trip.
Roberts Creek is 20km N of Gibsons; Gibsons is a 40m ferry trip across Howe Sound to Horseshoe Bay, in West Vancouver, just across Barrard Inlet from Vancouver - another ferry trip until Lion's Gate Bridge was built in 1938.

The informant on the d.cert for Clifford Shaw is the public trustee.
He's said to be single, b 9/7/1912 in England.
He's buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver.
It's by far the largest cemetery in the province, and does have a view of the North Shore mountains including Mt Hollyburn, site of the 2010 olympic snowboarding events.

Thank you mgnv - I didn't know that I could look at the 1921 census and you have given me one other site I didn't have.

Yes - I do have Clifford's death cert and we came over to Canada a few years ago and visited his grave at the Mountain View Cemetery. It is a very peaceful and beautiful place.

Although a date of birth is given on his death cert., I have never been able to locate his birth registration.

The info on Comox and Roberts Creek is very interesting as it is difficult to judge distances just from finding the places on a map.

I will keep Jessie's details to one side for the moment as I am not sure exactly wo I am following until I hear back from the owner of that tree. They certainly have the wrong death for Dorothy if they have the correct bride for Clifford but I need to find out exactly what 'facts' they have before I continue.

Many thanks for your help.

Dea Xxx

The other tree is in the name of Phelan.



William (Bill) Ernest SHAW
Birth 2 Nov , 1919 in Brooklyn Street, Kings Co., N.S.
Death 10 MARCH, 1978 in canadain Forces Base, Chilliwack,BC of heart attack




Dorothy (Dot ) Mildred TOUSSAINT
Birth 19 Jan, 1920 in Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Death 15 May, 1977 in Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada

Ahhh - Thanks alviegal, I thought you meant there was another tree with 'my' Clifford in it :-S :-D :-D

I wish that person would message me back.................

Dea x