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Missing John Cowling

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Gee

Gee Report 21 Apr 2014 15:04

Have you ruled out this birth reg?



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


Name:John Cowling

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1865

Registration district:Pateley Bridge

Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding

Volume:9a

Page:55



Edit:

This man seems to be on censuses with a different wife

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 21 Apr 2014 15:00

Found this one on the LDS site.............Richmond is nearer to Ripon than Goole is.

It isn't exactly conclusive, though

Name: John Cowling
Age (Original): 15
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1866
Birthplace: Richmond, Yorkshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Lodger
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: ?
Event Place: Grinton, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342174
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4878 / 63
Page Number: 8

Head Jane Alderson F 53 Grinton, Yorkshire, England
Daughter Jane A Alderson F 20 Grinton, Yorkshire, England
Son William Alderson M 18 Grinton, Yorkshire, England
Lodger John Cowling M 15 Richmond, Yorkshire, England

I'll see if I can see him on other censuses, for elimination, or not

Unknown

Unknown Report 21 Apr 2014 10:27

Thanks reggie. I've come to the conclusion that something isn't quite correct on the documents we do have. It's just knowing where to go next! I have photos of John Cowling but no birth certificate or anything from his earlier life which may give a clue.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2014 23:21

Goole and Ripon are at virtually opposite ends of Yorkshire

Perhaps his "father's" details were invented

Unknown

Unknown Report 20 Apr 2014 23:04

Thanks marieceleste. I've checked all the James Cowlings who were masons and none had a son called John. Likewise mine says his birthplace is Ripon and the other is Goole but I'm beginning to think maybe the info on the marriage certificate may not be 100% accurate.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Apr 2014 22:19

The fathers' occupations on the records conflict - on the 1890 marriage your John Cowling's father is a stonemason whereas on the 1871 you've posted the father James Cowling is a tailor.

I know people can sometimes change occupations but that switch would seem rather extreme.

Unknown

Unknown Report 20 Apr 2014 20:53

Thanks alviegal. Could anyone advise me how I may be able to confirm/discount if a John Cowling I've found born in Goole 1865 may be my missing John Cowling? The one from Goole is on 1871, 1881 and select births/christenings but I can't find him after 1881 where as my relative can not be found before 1890 so it would make sense if it is him.
1871 England Census about John Cowling
Name: John Cowling
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Cowling
Mother's name: Harriet Cowling
Gender: Male
Where born: Old; Goole, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Goole
Ecclesiastical parish: Goole St John
Town: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 120
Piece: 4730
Folio: 42
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cowling 31
Harriet Cowling 31
William H Cowling 7
John Cowling 6
Emily Cowling 5
Mary Eliza Cowling 2
Thanks in advance

alviegal

alviegal Report 15 Apr 2014 16:45

For ref.


1911 England Census about John Cowling
Name: John Cowling
Age in 1911: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Warmfield with Heath and Newland with Woodhouse Moor
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: Goosehill Normanton
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Chemical Works Labourer
Registration district: Wakefield
Registration District Number: 504
Sub-registration district: Normanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 27434
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cowling 45
Mary Cowling 46
Robert Cowling 18
Susan Cowling 11
Lucy Cowling 4

Unknown

Unknown Report 15 Apr 2014 16:38

Hello all.
I'm looking for details of my great great grandfather and wondered if anyone would be able to help me please.
His name was John Cowling and the details we do have are as follows;

May 26th 1890 Kirkthorpe parish of Warmfield, county of York
John Cowling, 24, Batchelor, Labourer, Warmfield, father - James Cowling, Mason
Mary Paver, 25, spinster, Warmfield, Father - Robert Paver, Miner
Witnessed by Richard Child, Sophia Ford, Robert Paver

On the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census it says his place of birth is Ripon, Yorkshire. I just can't seem to find him before he marries in 1890.

From what my nan remembers his actual birthday was celebrated on the 25th October and as a young man he'd worked/lived on a farm at some point but that's all we have. Apparently he was a very quiet man and didn't talk much and never mentioned any other family members etc so we don't have any other clues to go on!

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this.