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hi i a trying to find a marriage betwenn alfred rule born 1880 and florence searle born 1880 but underable to find to is before 1911 as they are on census as married any help would be very helpful many thanks michael chidren are charles born 1908 fred born 1910 alfred born 1906 albert born 1917 and doris 1919

Just for info to help us!


1911 England Census about Alfred J Rule
Name: Alfred J Rule
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ipswich, Cambridgeshire
Civil Parish: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 11 Lingford Road, Wood Street, Walthamstow
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer and Builder
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 161
Piece: 9704
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred J Rule 31
Florence Rule 31
Alfred J Rule 5
Charles J Rule 3
Frederick Rule 1

I can't find a marriage for them either.

Perhaps they just lived together and said they were married.

Kath. x

I am having a bit of a job even finding Alfred before 1911

This looks like Alfred in the 1881 census (a little bit older than he says in the 1911 census):-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Richard Rule Head Married Male 31 1850 Groom Domestic Serv Cambridgeshire, England
Susannah Rule Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Madingley, Cambridgeshire, England
James T Rule Son Single Male 10 1871 - Cambridgeshire, England
Charles T Rule Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Cambridgeshire, England
Barnard Rule Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Barton, Cambridgeshire, England
Susannah Rule Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Cambridgeshire, England
Lydia E Rule Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Cambridgeshire, England
Alfred J Rule Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth M Rule Daughter Single 0 1881 - Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England
William Jude - Single Male 18 1863 Coprolite Lab Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England

Address:- High Street, Barrington (Cambs), Royston, Hertfordshire,

Kath. x

Same family in the 1891 census:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Richard Rule Head Married Male 41 1850 Brickfield Laborer Great Eversden, Cambridgeshire, England
Susannah Rule Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Madingley, Cambridgeshire, England
Susannah Rule Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Great Eversden, Cambridgeshire, England
Alfred Rule Son Single Male 13 1878 General Laborer Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Rule Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England
Sidney Rule Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England
Beatrice Rule Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England
Richard Rule Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England
Esther Rule Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Barrington, Cambridgeshire, England

Address:- West Green, High Street, Barrington, Royston, Hertfordshire,

Kath. x

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
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Rule Alfred John Royston 3a 350


Andy

This looks like Alfred's death:-

First name(s) ALFRED J
Last name RULE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 47
Death quarter 4
Death year 1925
District WEST HAM
County Essex
Volume 4A
Page 384

Kath. x

??


Marriages Jun 1914

Rule Frederick Searle W.Ham 4a 423
Searle Florence Rule W.Ham 4a 423

Barrington. All Saints. Cambs.
Baptism

1878 9 June Rule Alfred John of Richard & Susanna West Green lab (born 20 Nov 1877)

Chris :)

Hello Michael and welcome to the Community boards.





(I'll let Michael know how to find his replies)

The 1911 Census does say .....


Florence had been married 6 years,

3 children born, all still alive

Alfred John Rule is on several ancestry trees with parents Richard and Susannah ............... none of them have a spouse for him

Just had a look and I see that Michael has opened my message but not responded. :-(