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William Horton born 1877 Hellingly Sussex to William Horton 1850 and Mary Fox
1853.
Mary and William had a son born before marriage George Fox 1870 in 1871 census
he is with gr parents Arthur and Lydia Fox
he is a George Horton 1881 Census with William and Mary Horton
as George Fox he joined to army in 1888 -- converted to R C 1897 and married
Mary Ann McDonald 29. 9. 1897 in Richmond, Nova Scotia. 4 daughters
Plympton ,West Indies, Gibralta, Malta. may be more presume he lived in Canada when he finished serving 1920.

when William Horton 1850 died 1929 his obituary says he had 5 sons 2 daughters
1 son in Canada --- the mourners are Widow - Frederick and wife -- Frank and wife--- Arthur and Wife -- Edward and wife - daughters are Lydia and Harriet
no mention of William or George [ if he is counted as a son??] I have looked for a death of William but wonder if he went to Canada

Would be please if anyone can see if William did go or if the reference to Canada was for George ??

Thank you Mavis

Have you looked to see if William or George are in trees on here, and then contacted the tree owners to see if they had more information?

Was William jnr with the family in 1911, and what was his occupation?

Thanks

1891 for ref.


Name: William Horton
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Horton
Gender: Male
Where born: Hellingly, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Friston
Ecclesiastical parish: Friston St James
Town: Friston
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 775
Folio: 61
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Horton 41
Mary Horton 38
Frederick Horton 15
William Horton 13
Harriet Horton 11
Frank Horton 9
Lydia Horton 7
Edward Horton 4
Arthur G Horton 2
William Fox 22

for ref:-

1911

William Horton Head Married Male 61 1850 Sussex Hellingly Labour On Farm As Carter Image Transcription
Mary Horton Wife Married Female 58 1853 Sussex Arlington - Image Transcription
Lydia Horton Daughter Single Female 27 1884 Sussex Hellingly - Image Transcription
George Horton Father Widower Male 85 1826 Sussex Hellingly Old Age Pensioner Image Transcription
Amy Lydia Marchant Granddaughter - Female 5 1906 Sussex Billinghurst -

Married 36yrs
children:- 7 (6 living and 1 died)


First name(s) William
Last name Horton
Relationship to household head Head
Marital condition Married
Gender Male
Age 61
Birth year 1850
Birth place Sussex Hellingly
Occupation Labour On Farm As Carter
Address Horselunges Cottages Hellingly
Parish Hellingly
County Sussex
Country England
Registration district Hailsham
Registration district number 72
Subdistrict Hellingly
Subdistrict number 2
Enumeration district 10
Piece number 4881
Piece Number Suffix -
Schedule number 3
Schedule Suffix -
Census reference RG14PN4881 RG78PN211 RD72 SD2 ED10 SN3
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

1 child had died by 1911 so could be either William or George?

On the 1911 census, 7 children born, 6 living, 1 died.

Name: William Horton
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Oct 1877
Christening Place: Hellingly, Sussex, England
Father's Name: William Horton
Mother's Name: Mary Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C39072-4 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1067203 , Reference ID: item 8-10

This one has a link to Canada????

Name: Wm Horton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: B, Toronto (east/est) (city/cité), Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Ethnicity: English
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Church Of England
Relationship to Head of Household: Patient
Birthplace: England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Page: 3
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"Canada Census, 1901," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KHGN-XQF : accessed 01 Sep 2014), Wm Horton, B, Toronto (east/est) (city/cité), Ontario, Canada; citing p. 3, Public Archives, Ottawa, Ontario.

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1921 Census of Canada
George Fox
Gender: Male Marital Status: Married
Age: 51 Birth Year: abt 1870 Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Fox
Father Birth Place: England Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1909
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Nova Scotia District: Cape Breton South and Richmond
District Number: 53 Sub-District: Sydney (City) Sub-District Number: 3
City, Town or Village: Ward 2 Street or Township: 242 Esplanade
Municipality: Sydney Occupation: Lockman
Income: 1100
George Fox 51
Mary Fox 49 Nova Scotia
Olive Fox 21 England
Ida Fox 19 Western Sahara (Probably West Indies)
Edith Fox 17 Gibraltar
Lillian Fox 14 Malta
John Fox 10 Nova Scotia
Source Citation: Reference Number: RG 31; Folder Number: 40; Census Place: Sydney (City), Cape Breton South and Richmond, Nova Scotia; Page Number: 15.

I know you probably already have this but here it is anyway:-
Name: George Fox
Birth Date: 1870
Birthplace: Sussex, Engld.
Age: 27
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Mcdonald
Spouse's Birth Date: 1872
Spouse's Birthplace: Irish Cove
Spouse's Age: 25
Event Date: 29 Sep 1897
Event Place: Johnstown, Richmond, Nova Scotia
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Spouse's Father's Name: Michael
Spouse's Mother's Name: Annie
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M58642-3 , System Origin: Canada-EASy , GS Film number: 1298993 , Reference ID: p 126 cn 15


This may also be relevant to George:-

Name: George Fox
Arrival Date: 19 Aug 1944
Arrival Port: Calais, Maine,
Age: 74
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Birthplace: , Hellingly Eng
Gender: Male
Race: English
Accompanied by Name: Wife Mary Ann
Departure Contact Name: Daughter Mrs. Walter Withrow
Arrival Contact Name: Daughter Mrs. George Rayner

Photograph Included: N Affiliate Publication Title: Alphabetical Manifest Cards of Alien Arrivals at Calais, Maine, ca. 1906-1952 , Affiliate Publication Number: M2042 , Affiliate Film Number: 3

Thanks you Catherine for update on George Fox -- that could be William
Horton ??

I have access to Sussex Bp and deaths unsure about child that died -- if
that had been William I would have thought It would have been in the
deaths of Hellingly.

Mavis

If the 1901 Canadian entry for Wm. Horton is your William then he was a patient at the time, so maybe he died in Canada at the same time?

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Nova Scotia / Cape Breton South / 3 Big Pond poll district / page 7-8
47 65 Fox George M Head M Dec 1863 47
48 65 Fox Mary A. F Wife M Feb 1869 42
49 65 Fox Olive J. G. F Daughter S Apr 1899 12
50 65 Fox Jan. T F Daughter S Mar 1900 10
1 65 Fox Edith F Daughter S Jan 1908 8
2 65 Fox Lydia F Daughter S Jan 1906 5

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001966275.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001966276.pdf

Anyone can search the 1921 and view transcriptions and images for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991


Ship:VICTORIAN
Shipping Line:Allan Line Steamship Co.
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Date of Departure:1909-04-16
Port of Arrival:Halifax, N.S. Saint John, N.B.
Date of Arrival:1909-04-23 1909-04
Year:1909
Microfilm Reel Number:T-4734
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:11951

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e148/e003682785.jpg
[The image shows 2 groups of Fox's - our mob headed to Irish Cove NS, and 3 others headed to Winnipeg.
However, it's an alphabetical list, and Fox isn't a really unusual name - I guess it's just coincidence.]

Irish Cove is abt 5km N of Johnstown, and Red Islands is abt 8km S of Johnstown - all are on the shore of Bras d'Or Lake, near the S end. Irish Cove is almost on the Richmond/Cape Breton county line.
Alexr Graham Bell moved to the lake after his phone days - he got interested in hydroplanes and built a craft that set the world water speed record on the lake.


Since you give exact details for Geo's marr, I presume you've accesed:
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

Using http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
Here's the 1881 for Richmond NS district, Red Islands subdistrict, showing Mary Ann McDonald a=10, d/o Michael & Ann, with sis Catherine a=13 & bro Roderick a=6 & other sibs, but the 2 I named were witnesses at Mary's marr.
There's also a bro Neil a=4, but I don't know that he would be old enough to conduct the marr.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e325/e008116527.pdf

NB 1871-1901, the Canadian nominal census day was within 1 d of the UK's; 1906-1921 it was in June.

1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396673_00630.pdf
1891 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148122-00524.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148122-00525.pdf
[Ann is a widow, Mary Ann has a sis Mary Agnes a=5, and a sis Kate Ann a=9]

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: NS RICHMOND (#39)
Subdistrict: Red Islands L Page 2
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6455
18 16 McDonald Neil M Head S Apr 17 1877 24
19 16 McDonald Katie F Sister S Jul 15 1884 16
20 16 McDonald Mary A F Sister S Feb 10 1887 14
21 16 McDonald Annie F Mother W Dec 5 1845 55

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/pdf/z000045966.pdf
Schedule 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z001/pdf/z000045961.pdf
[In 1901, Sched 2 had details of buildings, incl the addy - I've never seen a rural NS addy, and was disappointed to see it wasn't at all detailed - just "Irish Cove"
Neil (the head of h/h) is on page 2, line 18 on Sched 1, so that's the key to his entry in Sched 2]

Katy A. MacDonald d/o Michael & Anny and Frank Cash married 4/2/1902 in Irish Cove, Cape Breton County
Annie McDonald d/o Rail McNeil & Annie McNeil, died 2/9/1926 a=86 of Irish Cove, Richmond County - the informant was her daur Mrs Frank Cash.
[Actually, she died in Hawksbury, Antigonish Co after 3 w of residence there - probably the nearest hospital is my guess.]

thank you so much mgnv I only got details about George Fox from his army records
there was quite a lot of personal details which was helpful

You have been nice enough to update him and his family a bit more well done

Mavis