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I am trying to trace my nans siblings Joseph Charles, and I think a sister who on the 1911 census looks like Alice or Alace Broomfield. Their Father was Edward Broomfield and mother was Margaret Jones. they lived in Southwark, London. I believe Joseph was born in Holborn in 1896 and after this census I can find no other records either marriage, war or death. There was also a Walter. I have managed to trace the direct line back to 1720 but for some reason I am stuck on these more recent ones! I would be most grateful for any help/tips. There is a family rumour that a sister moved to Scotland. Margaret is another sister whose historyI am aware of so it cannot be her and my nans name was Agnes.

Thank you for any help

For ref

Family from 1911

Edward Broomfield 40 Born Eydon Hampshire
Margaret Broomfield 38 Born Carmarthen
Joseph Charles Broomfield 14 Clerkenwell
Edward Broomfield 11
Walter Broomfield 8 Walworth
Alace Broomfield 6
Margaret Broomfield 3

5 children born all living


Andy

Possible birth after census

Births Jun 1913
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Broomfield Agnes Jones Southwark 1d 144


Andy

????

BROOMFIELD, JOSEPH CHARLES

Rank:
Private
Service No:
300886
Date of Death:
09/10/1919
Age:
24
Regiment/Service:
Royal Air Force

Dispersal Station (Heaton Park)
Grave Reference:
Y. CE. 851.
Cemetery:
PRESTON (NEW HALL LANE) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Edward Broomfield; husband of Elizabeth Ann Broomfield, of 18, Dawson St., Preston.

This death fits for age for Joesph, but its a long way from home

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Broomfield Joseph C 24 Preston 8e 556


Andy

Possible marriage to go with record found by safc

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Broomfield Joseph C Green Preston 8e 934
Green Elizabeth A Broomfield Preston 8e 934


Andy

...and maybe a child????

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
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Broomfield Margaret Green Preston 8e 1018


Andy

scroll down to joseph charles broomfield
someone has put a poppy on his name


http://www.everymanremembered.org/cemeteries/cemetery/40561/?sortby=regiment&page=6

The service record on FMP has him born in Clerkenwell



First name(s) Joseph Charles Last name Broomfield
Birth year 1895 Birth date ? ? 1895 Birth parish Clerkenwell Birth county Middlesex Occupation Casual Labourer
Attestation year 1914 Attestation date 29 Aug 1914 Attestation age 19
Service number 300886
Marriage year 1917 Marriage date 03 Nov 1917
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Ann
***Child's first name(s) George Green Child's birth date 25 Jan 1913
Archive reference AIR 79/2618
Next of kin first name(s) Elizabeth Ann,George Green
Next of kin last name Broomfield
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939

*** can not find that info on the original image



Also this is showing on FMP

Medal Index Cards Transcription

First name(s) Joseph C Last name Broomfield
Service number 94432, 300886
Rank Gunner
Corps Royal Field Artillery, Royal Air Force
Service record Soldier Number: 94432, Rank: Gunner, Corps: Royal Field Artillery Service record 2 Soldier Number: 300886, Rank: Gunner, Corps: Royal Air Force Archive reference WO372/3 Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards

Hi thank you so much for that I have kept trying unsuccessfully for quite a few years now to get more info on him. it was very poignant to see the poppy next to his name. I think this must be him with the middle name and fathers name the same. Maybe he was based there on an RAF base I don't know. When I looked under Military records it drew a blank where should I look in the future to get such detail such as fathers name and place of birth etc. and is there anyway of finding out exactly where his war grave is or his join up personal details. Also does anyone know if tracing the person who put the poppy there possible. As I am only an hour away from Preston and would like to pay my respects. As to the other siblings Alace, I can find absolutely nothing on, and I wondered if it could be a misspelling of Alice but cannot find a birth record of an Alice to Edward and Margaret.


thank you again for all your help.

You;ll find his details on here - and if you look at the documents it gives plot/row numbers. The cemetery office should have a plan to locate the grave.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1

The other records have come from findmypast website

Thank you Flip, that is most helpful

I can't see a marriage for Edward and Margaret.

Andy

I've checked ERs, and the only children to show up with Edward/Margaret are Edward Llewellyn Broomfield and Agnes. Had hoped Alice/Alace would show up to get her name.

I can't see a marriage either, nor births for the younger children with any degree of certainty.

Name: Edwd Broomfield
Age: 5
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1900
School: King And Queen Street School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 29 Jan 1906
Parent: Edward
Notes: King and Queen Street School (0589) opened in 1883. Became Robert Browning School in 1933
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/KIN/AD/003


Name: Walter Broomfield
Age: 4
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1901
School: King And Queen Street School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 29 Jan 1906
Parent: Edward
Notes: King and Queen Street School (0589) opened in 1883. Became Robert Browning School in 1933
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV08/KIN/AD/003

Thank you very much, for all the information . I have tried also to find a marriage certificate and I couldn't either. I may have to just wait for the next Census to confirm Alace/Alice's name.

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 (Ancestry)

1935 Southwark
Blendon Row. 73, Alexandra House.
Broomfield Edward, also Margaret, Agnes, Edward Llewellyn.

Chris :)

(apologies to Flip, who already added!)

No apologies necessary Chris, I'm glad someone has confirmed this. They lived at the same address for a number of years - but they were the only children showing up with the parents.

Strange thing though, it looks like Edward Llewellyn married in 1929 - but he remained with his parents for a few years after the marriage! I can only find him with wife Louisa from about 1936....unless I've got the wrong person.

????

Marriages Jun 1891 (>99%)
Blyth Edith Annie Woolwich 1d 1492
Broomfield George Edward A Woolwich 1d 1492 xxxxxxx
Cosson Harry William Woolwich 1d 1492
Jones Mary Woolwich 1d 1492 xxxxxxx

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Albert House Blendon Row S E, St Mary Newington, London, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Broomfield Head Married Male 40 1871 Eydon Northamptonshire Brewers Beer
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Margaret Broomfield Wife - Female 38 1873 Carmarthen London -
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Joseph Charles Broomfield - - Female 14 1897 Clerkenwell London School
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Edward Broomfield - - Male 11 1900 Clerkenwell London School
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Walter Broomfield - - Male 8 1903 Walworth London School
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Alace Broomfield - - Female 6 1905 Walworth London School
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Margaret Broomfield - - Female 3 1908 Walworth London -


married 19 years