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Tracing data relating to Ellen L A Tyler

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Lancia

Lancia Report 17 Oct 2014 11:08

I have found an Ellen Tyler on the 1901 Rudgwick Sussex census.Stated is she is niece to the head George C H Tyler,born about 1885, Edenbridge Kent.

I have found a birth reg. for a Louisa Ellen A Tyler 3Q 1884 Sevenoaks Kent, but this might not be her.

I would like help to confirm her place and date of birth.

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2014 12:03

A tree on Ancestry has that for her birth - it also has her as marrying in 1913:

Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
Tyler Ellen L A Unsted St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 993

The only way to be sure it is the same person, is to buy both certs for father's name and occupation.

If this is your Ellen, the tree has lots of photos.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Oct 2014 12:15

That tree says that her full name is Ellen Louisa Annie Tyler and she was the daughter of Annie Maria Tyler (1855-) Sister of George C.H.?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2014 12:32

Westminster Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) ELLEN LOUISA ANNIE
Last name TYLER
Marriage year 1913
Marriage day 25
Marriage month Nov
Parish St Andrew, Ashley Place
Spouse's first name(s) ERNEST JOHN
Spouse's last name UNSTED
Groom's age 29
Bride's age 30

(Not Known, for Name of her Father, his, George Unsted, Labourer. wits. Margaret Boddie, Archibald Tolson. her Residence at Time, 4 Flat 125 Victoria St. SW)

Chris :)

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Gee

Gee Report 17 Oct 2014 12:57


Details for the couple in 1901

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:George Charles Henry Tyler

Gender:Male

Age:20

Birth Date:1874

Marriage Date:8 Sep 1894

Marriage Place:Lower Beeding, Sussex, England

Father: Robert Reed

Spouse:
Mary Ann Ada Henley

FHL Film Number:
2147012

Reference ID:
item 9-12 P100-200

There is also a John Sparkes showing when I hover the image but when I click on it he disappears!


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According to this, Ellen is his sister not his niece


1891 England Census

Name:Ellen Reed

Age:7

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1884

Relation:Daughter

Father's Name:Robert Reed

Mother's name:Ellen Reed

Gender:Female

Where born:Edenbridge, Kent, England

Civil Parish:Lower Beeding

County/Island:Sussex

Registration district:Horsham

Sub registration district:North Horsham

ED, institution, or vessel:14

Piece:828
Folio:104

Page Number:7

Household Members:


Robert Reed 60
Ellen Reed 47
Charles Reed 18 Pembury, Kent, England
Ellen Reed 7



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Oct 2014 13:03

According to several trees on Ancestry.......

Louisa Ellen Annie Tylers mother married Robert Webb King in 1886

Annie died in 1910 and Robert is with the Tylers in 1911



1911 England Census
about George Charles Henry Tyler Name:George Charles Henry Tyler
Age in 1911:37
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Pembury, Kent, England
Civil Parish:Shepperton
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England
Street address:Water Splash Cottage, Shepperton
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Farm Labour General
Registration district:Staines
Registration District Number:126
Sub registration district:Sunbury
ED, institution, or vessel:13
Household schedule number:52
Piece:6737

Household Members:

George Charles Henry Tyler 37
Mary Ann Ada Tyler 37
Charles Edward Herbert Tyler 13
Alice Louisa Annie Tyler 10
William Frederick John Tyler 9
Albert Sydney Tyler 3
Edith Florence Tyler 7/12
Robert King 70 (Widower)


Gee

Gee Report 17 Oct 2014 13:07

Ellen and her brother are not with parents here



1901 England Census

Name:Robert Reed

Age:79

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1822

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Spouse:
Ellen Reed

Birth Place:Tonbridge, Kent, England

Civil Parish:Rudgwick

Ecclesiastical parish:Holy Trinity

Town:Rudgwick

County/Island:Sussex

Registration district:Horsham

Sub-registration district:West Horsham

ED, institution, or vessel:4

Piece:952
Folio:55
Page Number:8
Household schedule number:56

Household Members:


Name

Age


Robert Reed 79
Ellen Reed 68










PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Oct 2014 13:08

Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
King Robert Webb Sevenoaks 2a 741
TYLER Anne Maria Sevenoaks 2a 741



Deaths Mar 1910 (>99%)
KING Annie Maria 47 Horsham 2b 217


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Oct 2014 13:54

Did I miss something? How did the name Reed enter the picture?

Potty

Potty Report 17 Oct 2014 14:01

Robert Reed given as George's father on marriage record posted by Gins.

Lancia

Lancia Report 17 Oct 2014 14:39

Wow, Thank you to all the wonderful GU members(Potty, Margee, PricklyHolly, Ginns and Chris Ho ) for their help, you have given me lots of information.
I have tried to trace the link with Robert Reed, Robert King and the Tyler family with limited family history this branch of my family had been hard to trace.
:-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2014 15:02

http://tinyurl.com/k2ofocp

(Ernest Death, Australia)

13384/1955 UNSTED ERNEST JOHN (Parents) GEORGE AGNES KATOOMBA

Chris :)

Gee

Gee Report 17 Oct 2014 16:40

Has anyone had any luck finding her in 1911?

Gee

Gee Report 17 Oct 2014 17:12

There is a marriage for Tyler and Ernest J Unsted in London


Name: Ellen Louisa Annie & Ernest Unsted
Residence: 1930 - Hurstville, Barton, New South Wales, Australia

Gritty

Gritty Report 17 Oct 2014 17:15

First name(s) E L A
Last name UNSTED
Title MRS
Gender Female
Age 67
Birth year 1885
Departure year 1952
Departure day 18
Departure month 8
Departure port LONDON
Destination port SYDNEY
Destination SYDNEY
State New South Wales
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name ORION
Ship official number 164493
Ship master's first name ARTHUR EDWARD
Ship master's last name COLES
Shipping line ORIENT
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA

Gee

Gee Report 17 Oct 2014 18:00

This is the last ER I can see her on, without Ernest


Name: Ellen Louisa Annie Unsted
Residence: 1958 - Lawson, Macquarie, New South Wales, Australia

Gee

Gee Report 18 Oct 2014 10:28

PM


Thank you so very much for your help.

John Sparkes was step brother of Mary Ann Ada and was married to George CH Tyler.
The family have been lead to believe Robert Reed was step father to George CH, but we not have written proof.

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Posted back asking for the poster to add to the thread with all the details

:-)

Lancia

Lancia Report 18 Oct 2014 23:09

A huge THANK YOU to the GU members who shared their information with me.

I can confirm the data of the 1901 and 1911 census are correct.George CH Tyler married Mary Ann Ada Henley.

Mary Ann Ada's stepbrother was John Sparkes

Ellen was George's niece and her mother was Anne/Annie Maria Tyler and she was George's sister

On the 1911 census Robert King is a widower and a boarder.
It looks like Robert was married to Anne/Annie Maria Tyler- George Ch Tyler brother-in-law..

Trying to confirm the link with George Reed and George CH Tyler.

Gee

Gee Report 20 Oct 2014 09:01

Looks like she married again or at least lived with another man



Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980

Name:Ellen Louisa Annie Ritchie & John Henry Ritchie

Gender:Female

Electoral Year:1963

State:New South Wales

District:Macquarie

Subdistrict:Lawson

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Death

23769/1965 RITCHIE ELLEN LOUISA A