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Hello hope I can get some help I am looking for my grandmothers brother Joseph he was born in 1875 in Manchester he got married in 1907 to Caroline Egan but I cannot find him after that not even on the 1911 census I found his brother Harry and sister Margaret Ellen with there mother Elizabeth Jessey who was my great grandmother who had re married some time before but I cannot find Joseph I would like some help Joe

just in case, age out and married 6 years


1911 England Census about Joseph Harland
Name: Joseph Harland
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 40 Bush Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coffen Maker
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub registration district: Newton Heath
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 24266
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Harland 47
Caroline Harland 45
Frank Harland 19
John Harland 17
Herbert Harland 15
Joseph Harland 13
William Harland 12
Raymond Harland 8

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345685

(did you see replies on your other 'Thread' above relating yesterday Joe?)

Chris :)

Hello Joseph- make sure you take a look at your other threads.

This is possibly Joseph in the workhouse

Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911 Transcription
Joseph Harland
Birth year 1874
Admission/Discharge year 1885-86
Admission year 1885
Admission day 09
Admission month Feb
Previous residence -
Place Manchester
Register book year 1885
Locality of record Manchester New Bridge Street Workhouse
Records title Workhouse Admissions
Date range 1885-1886
Film M 4 / 11 / 3
Record set Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911

For ref: 1891

Elizabeth Harland Head Widow Female 45 1846 Cotton Winder Wellington, Somerset,
Joseph Harland Son Single Male 16 1875 Printers Feeder Manchester, Lancashire,
Harry Harland Son Male 7 1884 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire,
Margaret Ellen Harland Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Manchester, Lancashire,
Street Bagnley Street
Parish Manchester
City Manchester
County Lancashire
Registration district Manchester
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 3246
Folio 57
Page 27

Do you have the marriage certificate to confirm the this is your Joseph's marriage please?

Name: Caroline Egan
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Manchester
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 357

Records on Page:
Name
John Burke
Caroline Egan
Joseph Harland
Louisa Mullane

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
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Harland Joseph Prestwich 8d 558
Jackson Margaret Prestwich 8d 558


(looking at above 1911 Joseph (Coffin Maker) on 1891 1901 above possible Marriage, below, Birth)


Births Mar 1864 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
HARLAND Joseph Manchester 8d 118


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864
HARLAND Joseph Ancoats Manchester ABBOTT

Chris :)


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
HARLAND Joseph Ancoats Manchester PARROTT ANC/158/33

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Well done Chris. That answers my question about the marriage certificate. I think you have proved that that is not Joe's Joseph.

1891

Name: Joseph Harland
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Harland
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 19a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3246
Folio: 57
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Harland 45
Joseph Harland 16, occ. Printer's Feeder
Harry Harland 7
Margaret Ellen Harland 3

In case you don't have, here is another sibling.

Name: Amy Harland
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1872
Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1873
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: Joseph Harland
Mother's name: Elizabeth Harland
Archive Roll: 773


Name: Amy Harland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Registration Year: 1873
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 10

(nudge up!)

Chris :)

Nudging up again for Joseph