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I am a professional researcher working on the history of Box Hill village in Surrey, where in the 1920s a Mr. Percy A Bayman of Wanstead (and formerly West Ham) was a major land developer. Despite his being largely responsible for the present footprint of the village, very few records remain of him, or his companies - Suburban Developments (London) Ltd, or George E Gray Ltd. If any of his living relatives are able to advise me whether or not any accessible company or personal archives exist I would be extremely grateful. Even personal recollections or photos would help - just something to flesh out what is at present a very scant record of Mr Bayman's significant impact on the growth and development of Box Hill village. Thank you.
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highly unlikely anyone with knowledge of this man will see your posting - sad but true
use "Search" top right hand corner of this page to see if there are any connections on this site
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Is this him? I expect you have these? Not about Box Hill, though.
From the British Newspaper Archive, to which I don't have access:
Chelmsford Chronicle Essex, England
5 May 1939
DEATH OF MR. . A. BAY MAN W.EL L-KN JWN BRENTWOOD BENEFACTOR Mr. Percy Alfred Bayman, of Shenfield Place, Shenfield,
DEATH OF MR. . A. BAY MAN W.EL L-KN JWN BRENTWOOD BENEFACTOR Mr. Percy Alfred Bayman, of Shenfield Place, Shenfield, died on Sunday Brentwood Hospital, where he had been for some time. Mr. Bayman, who was 57, was a generous lriend to Brentwood District Hospital . . . . . . .
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Essex Newsman Essex, England
3 Jan 1914
COW STOPS MOTOR CAR
COW STOPS MOTOR CAR. Mr. Percy Alfred Bayman, of Vanstead, and party of four gentlemen nad curious experience while motoring homo on Saturday evening. Passing under the trees near Boreham Mill.Mr. Bayman saw a straying cow on the road. applied the brakes . . . . . . . .
Chelmsford Chronicle Essex, England
11 Jan 1929
SHENFIELD RATE APPEAL
SHENFIELD RATE APPEAL the Essex Quarter Session Appeal Court on Friday, before W. J. Courtauld, Esq., and other Justices, Percy Bayman, Shenfield Place, appealed against the Shenfield poor rate of May 1, 1928.—Mr. J. F. Eastwood was for the appellant, and . . . . . . . .
Yorkshire Evening Post West Yorkshire, England
25 Nov 1939
SHIPLEY A.F.S. CENTRE
of the London Evening News, left £59,793 (net personalty. £66.398). so far as at present can be ascertained. Mr. Percy Alfred Bayman. Shcnfteld, Essex, and Easton Hall, Woodbrldge, Suffolk. governing director George E. Gray, Ltd., timber merchant*,. . . . . . . . . .
Chelmsford Chronicle Essex, England
1 Dec 1939
WILLS AND BEQUESTS
WILLS AND BEQUESTS Mr. Percy A. Bayman, of Shenfield Pl , acc S enfield an d Easton Hall, Woodbndge, governing director of George E Grey, Ltd., timber merchantr and largely concerned with the development of building estates and a pedigree stock-breedcr . . . . . . . . .
Essex Newsman Essex, England
16 Jun 1934
NEW HOSPITAL AT BRENTWOOD
that Hospital would ever remind them of the generous man who not only gave the site but laid out the gardens. The name of Percy Bayman would ever be remembered in the Hospital. (Applause). They had planned to accommodate 100 beds, of which 40 were now provided . . . . . . . . . .
Chelmsford Chronicle Essex, England
22 Jul 1927
SALE OF RE POLLS
oOgns.; Bellona, Mr. P. A. Bayman. ?, : -., Damsel, Miss Newall, ; R. Fruitful, Mrs. Griffiths. 30gns.; R. Lady >ora. Admiral Sir Hedworth Meux. 28gns. ; Floss. Major H. W. Quin. Bloemfontein. 29gns. Bull: Cpton Monitor, Mr. Percy Cro6sman, 58gns.
Chelmsford Chronicle Essex, England
15 Jun 1934
NEW HOSPITAL AT BRENTWOOD
and the Cottage Hospital on Shenfield Common, although enlarged from time to time, was inadequate. About this time Mr. P. A. Bayman inspected the Hospital, and on hearing the difficulty immediately offered the splendid site of 18 acres upon which the new . . . . . . .
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Presumably you have looked to see if he had any descendants, but no-one on this site appears to have him in their tree, so perhaps your luck is not in.
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His probate
Left £219,730.10s.6d to widow Amelia Kate Bayman,
Lewis Alfred Bayman and Edward George Gray Bayman
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Name:
Edward George Gray Bayman
Birth: 27 Oct 1916 - Essex, England
Death: Mar 1973 - Brentwood, Essex, England
Parents: Percy Alfred Bayman, Amelia Katie Leadbetter
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Percy Alfred Bayman
Birth Jan 1882 in Camberwell, London, England
Death 30 Apr 1939 in Billericay, Essex, England
spouse ( married 1904)
Amelia Katie Leadbetter1880 –
children
Lewis Alfred Bayman1905 – 1984
Gwendoline Amelia Edith Bayman1911 – (married Frank W W Bull 1938)
Edward George Gray Bayman1916 – 1973
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Don't now if you are looking for census records or just records about his work but here they are anyway:-
1891 England Census about Percy Bayman
Name: Percy Bayman
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred Bayman
Mother's name: Edith Bayman
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Wanstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columba
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 17 Elsham Road
Occupation:
Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1350
Folio: 50
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Bayman 33 1858 born: St George East, London (occupation: Confectioners Warehouseman)
Edith Bayman 32
Lillian Bayman 11
Percy Bayman 9
Winnie Bayman 5
1901 England Census about Percy A Bayman
Name: Percy A Bayman
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Mother: Edith M A Bayman
Birth Place: Camberwell, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Timber Merchants Clerk
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1588
Folio: 61
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members:
Name Age
Edith M A Bayman 42 1859 Birth Place: London, Middlesex
Beatrice C L Bayman 21 1880 Birth Place: Camberwell, Surrey
Percy A Bayman 19
Winifred J Bayman 15 1886 Birth Place: Leytonstone, Essex
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1911 England Census about Percy Alfred Bayman
Name: Percy Alfred Bayman
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Camberwell
Civil Parish: Wanstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: Clovelly, Blake Hall Crescent, Wanstead N E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Commercial Traveller Timber Trade
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub registration district: Wanstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 116
Piece: 9603
Household Members:
Name Age
Percy Alfred Bayman 29
Amelia Katie Bayman 31 Birth Place: Forest Gate
Lewis Alfred Bayman 5
Gwendoline Amelia Edith Bayman 1/12
Ada Elizabeth Meayers 17 - Servant
Married 6yrs
Children:- 2 both living
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Percy Alfred Bayman
Name: Percy Alfred Bayman
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Mar 1882
Father's Name: Alfred Bayman
Mother's name: Edith Mary Ann Bayman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth Common
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Amelia Katie Bayman
Name: Amelia Katie Bayman
Probate Date: 8 Jul 1963
Death Date: 30 Dec 1962
Death Place: Essex, England
Registry: London, England
................of Shenfield Place died at Brentwood Hospital
Probate to Lewis Alfred Bayman and Edward George Gray Bayman timber merchants and Gwendoline Amelia Edith Bull married woman.
Effects:- £73979 4s
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Thanks to everyone who has so far responded. Unfortunately I already have the information offered.
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So the question is - have you identified any living relatives?
If so, have you looked to see if they are in any trees on here?
Have you purchased the death certificates of his children, to see who the informants are, who may be relatives?
Added:
Geoffrey Bayman appears to be in a tree on here - have you tried to contact the tree owner?
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Lewis Bayman probably married and had 4 sons,
This is easy to find on free bmd.
Subsequent marriages of children also appear.
Then google searches and 192.com searches reveal various family members. Also on facebook.
As you are a professional researcher, have you identified those people and attempted to contact them?
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Thanks folks for all your responses but I understand all the genealogical methods and YES I have tried all the methods that have been suggested and a few that haven't.
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If you have tried all the methods, then are you saying that you have not been able to contact any living relatives?
We would not want to duplicate your research.
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The sites whose data has been reproduced on here specifically prohibit their use for financial gain, so could there be repercussions for those who have copied it?
Just sounding a note of caution..........
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