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Moorfoot-Butler-Thompson family link

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Christine

Christine Report 22 Oct 2014 13:17

My grandfather was John William Moorfoot Butler 1892-1966 of Goole.He was the son of John Thomas Butler 1860-1927, and ElizabethThompson 1862 c1943. Iam trying to discover my grandfather's relationship to the Moorfoot family. All family members originated from the Goole,Thorne areas on the Yorks/Lincs borders. I wonder if anyone can help please

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2014 13:39

Just for ref as a starting point

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about John William Moorfoot Butler
Name: John William Moorfoot Butler
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1893
Marriage Date: 15 Aug 1914
Marriage Place: Luddington, Lincoln, England
Father: John Thomas Butler
Spouse: Florence Oades
FHL Film Number: 1450398

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2014 13:41


1901 England Census about John William Butler
Name: John William Butler
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Thomas Butler
Mother: Elizabeth Butler
Birth Place: Goole, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Goole
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
Town: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4423
Folio: 141
Page Number: 14
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thomas Butler 40
Elizabeth Butler 39
George Mary Butler 17
Ethel May Butler 14
Herbert Thompson Butler 12
Emily Mary Butler 7
John William Butler 8

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2014 13:43

1891 England Census about John T Butler
Name: John T Butler
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Butler
Gender: Male
Where born: West Cowick, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hook
Ecclesiastical parish: Goole St Johns
Town: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Goole
Sub registration district: Goole
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3873
Folio: 102
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Butler 30
Elizabeth Butler 29
George Hy Butler 7
Ethel M Butler 4
Herbert T Butler 2
Charles W Thompson 18
George Smith 18
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Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2014 13:45

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Butler John Thomas Thorne 9c 1028
Thompson Elizabeth Thorne 9c 1028


Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2014 13:50

Possible link to Moorfoot family?

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)

Moorfoot Violet Annie Goole 9c 1181

Thompson William Goole 9c 1181

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Oct 2014 13:52


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about John William Morfoot Butler
Name: John William Morfoot Butler
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1893
Baptism Place: Goole, York, England
Father: John Thomas Butler
Mother: Elizabeth Butler
FHL Film Number: 1657233

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2014 16:29

Maybe try and follow this family back to see if there is a link anywhere? cousins?

1901 England Census about Major Morfoot
Name: Major Morfoot
[Major Moorfoot]
[Major Moorfoot]
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Jane E Morfoot
Birth Place: North Burton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Goole
Ecclesiastical parish: Goole St John the Evangelist
Town: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4423
Folio: 31
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Major Morfoot 58
Jane E Morfoot 43
Emma Morfoot 12
John Morfoot 10
Matilda Morfoot 7
Mabel Morfoot 5
Mathias Morfoot 3

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Oct 2014 17:10


Someone's tree has Violet marrying Samuel Lunn not William Thompson


Marriages Mar 1902

Lunn Samuel Henry Goole 9c 1181
Moorfoot Violet Annie Goole 9c 1181
Stephenson Ada Goole 9c 1181
Thompson William Goole 9c 1181


and cites this as her death


Name:
Violet A Lunn

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1882

Registration Year:
1911

Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar

Age at Death:
29

Registration district:
Goole

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2014 17:14

Do you have JWMB's parents' marriage cert, which RR posted above? that would give you Elizabeth's father's name, to help investigate further.

If John Thomas Butler's POB in 1891 is correct, can this be him in 1881 with a first wife, I wonder? and his mother and stepfather.


1881 England Census about John Butler
Name: John Butler
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Son in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: West Cowick, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Howden
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Booth Cottage Bridle Rd
Occupation: Farmers Son
Registration district: Howden
Sub registration district: Howden
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4737
Folio: 31
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Bridgett 60
Mary Bridgett 50
John Butler 20
Alice Butler 18



Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
Bridgett Isaac Goole 9c 763
BUTLER Mary Goole 9c 763


Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
BUTLER John Howden 9d 177
Cawkill Alice Howden 9d 177

However, I can't see Alice's death.(assuming she married the right John Butler)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2014 17:23

Elizabeth Thompson in 1881 with mother & stepfather.
Charles W is Turgoose in 1881, although Thompson in 1891 (posted by RR above).
EDIT: But he's back to Turgoose in 1901, 1911, and his army record.)


1881 England Census about Elizabeth Thompson
Name: Elizabeth Thompson
[Elizabeth Turgoose]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Joseph Turgoose
Mother: Mary Turgoose
Gender: Female
Where born: Thorne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Thorne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Back Street
Occupation: General Servant (Domestic)
Registration district: Thorne
Sub registration district: Thorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4698
Folio: 62
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Turgoose 61
Mary Turgoose 55
William Thompson 24 - son
Elizabeth Thompson 19 - daughter
Emma Thompson 15 - daughter
Charles W. Turgoose 9 - grandson
William Thompson 19 - boarder


Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
Thompson Mary Thorne 9c 1158
Turgoose Joseph Thorne 9c 1158

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Oct 2014 15:26

Elizabeth, with parents & siblings in 1871:

1871 England Census about William Thompson
Name: William Thompson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Thompson
Mother's name: Mary Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Thorne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Thorne
Town: Thorne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Thorne
Sub-registration district: Thorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 4727
Folio: 88
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
George Thompson 64
Mary Thompson 46
Harriet Thompson 17
William Thompson 14
Elizabeth Thompson 9
Emily Thompson 4



1861 England Census about Harriet Thompson
Name: Harriet Thompson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Thompson
Mother's name: Mary Thompson
Gender: Female
Where born: Thorne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Thorne
Town: Thorne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Thorne
Sub-registration district: Thorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 89
Piece: 3525
Folio: 79
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
George Thompson 50
Mary Thompson 36
Alice Thompson 12
Harriet Thompson 7
William Thompson 4



1851 England Census about Alice Thompson
Name: Alice Thompson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Thompson
Mother's name: Mary Thompson
Gender: Female
Where born: W R Thorne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Thorne
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Thorne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Thorne
Sub-registration district: Epworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 2349
Folio: 393
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
George Thompson 45
Mary Thompson 26
Mary Ann Thompson 7
Sarah Thompson 5
Alice Thompson 2


Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
Thompson George 68 Thorne 9c 382


Don't know Mary's maiden name - lots of marriages of George Thompsons to women named Mary.

Christine

Christine Report 25 Oct 2014 16:11

Thanks to everyone for your help. I know that Elizabeth,s mother was Mary, and think that there is a possibility her surname may have been Ford,and that they were married in Doncaster. Thankyou, Christine