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Looking for Jean Creasey

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Barry

Barry Report 26 Oct 2014 22:13

hi,hope someone can help

iam looking for the birth date of my dads cousin.
Jean Creasey she would have been born about 1918 - 1922 but not sure.In
i think East Grinstead.
Her mother was Via Creasey 1905 born in East Grinstead,father unknown.

Also is there a death date unless she is still alive?

Thanks everone .for looking
:-)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:18

Use freebmd to look, and do the maths based on the mother's birth year


And are you sure about the mother's first name?


And her birth year?


Are you saying that her daughter was also illegitimate?

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Barry

Barry Report 26 Oct 2014 22:23

yep Via 1905

Via could be Violet

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:23

Is either of these the mother?


Births Dec 1901 (>99%)

CREASEY Violet Louisa E. Grinstead 2b 139 Scan available - click to view



Births Mar 1905 (>99%)

Creasey Florence Elizabeth E. Grinstead 2b 135

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:24

Do some research............freebmd is very easy to use

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Barry

Barry Report 26 Oct 2014 22:25

yes i think she was illegitimate but not sure

Barry

Barry Report 26 Oct 2014 22:26

yes thats her mother

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:26

Well, find out, by checking. It isn't difficult to look for a marriage

If her birth name was the same as her mother's, she was illegitimate...........

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:28

Which one???????????

I posted TWO births

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:30

If you meant VIOLET......a copy of the death cert would be worth getting, to find out who the informant was

First name(s) VIOLET LOUISA
Last name CREASEY
Gender Female
Birth day 29
Birth month 9
Birth year 1901
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1990
District CRAWLEY
Register number 590
County Sussex
Volume 18
Page 1726
Country England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:32

This one seems to have had a known father

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11 Council Terrace Dormans Park Road E Grinstead, East Grinstead, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Creasey Head Married Male 47 1864 Sussex East Grinstead General Labourer Transcription
Esther Creasey Wife Married Female 47 1864 Surrey Horley - Transcription
Hellie Winifred Creasey Daughter Single Female 22 1889 Sussex East Grinstead General Servant Domestic Transcription
Ernest Harold Creasey Son - Male 14 1897 Sussex East Grinstead - Transcription
Florence May Creasey Daughter - Female 11 1900 Sussex East Grinstead School Transcription
Violet Louisa Creasey Daughter - Female 9 1902 Sussex East Grinstead School

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:33

As you were unsure of the mother's correct name, could it be the same for the daughter?


Births Dec 1920 (>99%)

Creasey Cela J Creasey E. Grinstead 2b 234

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:35

First name(s) CELA JEAN
Last name MASTERS
Gender Female
Birth day 6
Birth month 10
Birth year 1920
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1974
District UCKFIELD
County Sussex
Volume 5H
Page 1705

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Barry

Barry Report 26 Oct 2014 22:42

thanks for info and help,looked at freebdm had no look,just wondering
if the above is her and the first name is Cela?
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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Oct 2014 22:49

The only way to be sure is to get a copy cert

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Barry

Barry Report 26 Oct 2014 22:54

cheers

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Oct 2014 03:18

if you work out the dates ...................


you say Via was born in 1905


and the daughter, you think was born between 1918 and 1922



Via would have been only 13 years old in 1918



jail bait even in those days :-)

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 09:18

The Age of Marriage Act 1929 (19 & 20 Geo 5 c 36) was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom which increased the age of marriage to sixteen. It was passed in response to a campaign by the National Union of Societies for Equal Citizenship.[2]


Age of marriage act of 1929
Minimum age of marriage raised to 16.....prior to the act of 1929 you could marry at the age of 12 if you were female and 14 if you were male although in practice marrying at these sort of ages rarely happened!

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Oct 2014 18:38

pm from Barry


update new birth date i just found 1901,her daughter 1920

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Oct 2014 18:42

Jacqueline


yes, I am quite aware of those dates, and the ages for marriage


however ............... marriages between the ages of 12 or 14 and 21 required parental consent ............ and we would find a marriage


I was referring to relations outside marriage ...... which is what it seems we are looking for .................


Two very different situations, do you not agree?



Originally the age of consent in England was set at 12. However, in 1875 the Offense Against the Persons Act raised it to 13 in Great Britain and Ireland. The Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1885 raised it to 16.

In 1917 a bill raising the age of consent in Great Britain and Ireland from 16 to 17 was defeated by only one vote.



and a child of 13 would most definitely have been under the age of consent

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