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Hi, need some help please.
I have John Wright Rich born 1852 at Tuxford, Notts, in the 1861 census he is living with his grandparents, as follows:. George Rich 53 born Tuxford. Elizabeth Rich wife 52 born Bassingham Lincs. Mary Rich 22 daughter in law, born Gamston. JOHN W RICH 9 Grandson born Tuxford. Anne Rich 4 gr.daughter. ..........Rich 6 months grandson.
I cannot find John's parents, surely Mary could't be John's mother as she is only 22 and there is no husband there also it says married not widow.
Could some-one look up George and Elizabeth in the 1841 and 1851 census please, hopefully some sons will show up and then I can try and find John's parents.
Thank you for helping Teresa :-(

Your best best is too get his birth cert

Births Jun 1850
Rich John Wright E Retford 15 563

Births Mar 1852
RICH John Wright E. Retford 7b 21

Looks like the first lad died so his brother was named after him

Deaths Jun 1850
RICH John Wright E Retford 15 349

just got 2nd message through, about one child died.
Thank you

1841 England Census about George Rich
Name: George Rich
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Tuxford
Hundred: Bassetlaw (South Clay Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Tuxford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 852
Book: 15
Folio: 16
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rich 35
Elizabeth Rich 30
William Rich 12
George Rich 10
Mary Rich 8
Charles Rich 6
Thomas Rich 1

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 852; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Tuxford; County: Nottinghamshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 16; Page: 24; Line: 22; GSU roll: 438902.

1851 England Census about George Rich
Name: George Rich
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Rich
Gender: Male
Where born: Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Tuxford
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Tuxford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: East Retford
Sub-registration district: Gringley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 2121
Folio: 708
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rich 45
Elizth Rich 42
George Rich 19
Thomas Rich 11
Walter Rich 9
Sarah Wright Rich 5
Samuel Rich 2
Robert Bell 21
Saml Bilton 30
John Toul 27
Tom Batman 20

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2121; Folio: 708; Page: 7; GSU roll: 87750-87751.

Note sarah 's second name of Wright

Seems to be a family second name
Name: William Wright Rich
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Jan 1828
Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England
Death Date: 7 May 1828
Father: George Rich
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539

Next son baptised William too
Name: William Rich
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 16 Mar 1829
Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England
Father: George Rich
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539

Name: Mary Anna Rich
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1833
Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England
Father: George Rich
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539


Name: Walter Rich
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1843
Baptism Place: East Markham,Nottingham,England
Father: George Rich
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 503792, 504064, 504521


Name: George Rich
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 Jul 1831
Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England
Father: George Rich
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539

Name: Walter Rich
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Nov 1836
Baptism Place: Tuxford,Nottingham,England
Father: George Rich
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 504067, 504539

Thanks very much Shirley :-)

Burials 18 Apr 1818 RICH William Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
Burials 07 May 1828 RICH William Wright Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
Burials 14 Nov 1840 RICH Walter Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
Burials 17 Jan 1841 RICH John Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
Burials 24 Jan 1841 RICH Catherine Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
Burials 25 Jan 1841 RICH John Wright Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname
Burials 26 Feb 1845 RICH John Nottinghamshire Tuxford Surname

(in case they come in anywhere!, from below link)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Thank-you Chris, I should be able to sort those out.

Births Jun 1861 (>99%)
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Rich Henry Wright E. Retford 7b 22

(wondering if above is the 'Rich' on 1861, says 6 days on image)


Births Jun 1857 (>99%)
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Rich Ann Elizabeth E Retford 7b 5

(the 4yr old)


Deaths Jun 1861 (>99%)
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Rich Henry Wright E. Retford 7b 14

Chris :)

according to several trees on ancestry .......

John Wright Rich is the son of George Rich and Elizabeth


and Elizabeth's maiden name was Wright ....... hence the prevalence of "Wright" as a second name among their children



this is what one of those trees shows



John Wright Rich
Birth Bef. Mar 1852 in East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Death Dead


Parents

George Rich
1805 – 1885

Elizabeth Wright
1809 – 1881



Siblings

William Wright Rich
1828 – 1829

William Rich
1829 – 1892

George Rich
1831 –

Mary Anna Rich
1833 –

Charles Rich
1835 –

Walter Rich
1836 – 1840

John Wright Rich
1838 – 1841

Thomas Wright Rich
1840 – 1885

Walter Wright Rich
1843 – 1867

Sarah Wright Rich
1846 – 1883

Samuel Wright Rich
1848 –

John Wright Rich
1850 – 1850

William Wright Rich
1855 – 1855

Thank you Sylvia :-)

On the 20th November I asked and received information regarding John Wright Rich.
I am now trying to find him in the 1891 census. He should have been married by then as his son Walter Wright Rich was born June qtr 1892. Retford.
If anyone can help I would be grateful.
Thank-you Teresa

Walter Wright Rich is the son of Millicent Rich. He was born before she married Thomas George Bellamy in 1897.

Your John Wright Rich is living with his wife Emily in Lancashire.

This is the 1891 showing John Wright Rich. His name has been transcribed as John William.


Name:
John Wm Rich

Age:
41

Estimated birth year:
abt 1850

Relation:
Head

Spouse's Name:
Emily Rich

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Luseford, Nottinghamshire, England
[Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England]

Civil Parish:
Eccleston

Ecclesiastical parish:
Christchurch

County/Island:
Lancashire

John Wm Rich 41
Emily Rich 47
Emily Rich 18
Isabella Rich 13

and the 1911 to confirm it is the correct man. His wife is much older than him so highly unlikely that Walter is theirs. There is no Walter with them in 1901.

Name:
John Wright Rich

Age in 1911:
59

Estimated birth year:
abt 1852

Relation to Head:
Head

Gender:
Male

Birth Place:
Tuxford, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish:
Eccleston

County/Island:
Lancashire

Country:
England

Street address:
Mill Braw Cottage Eccleston

Marital Status:
Married

Occupation:
Parish Clerk

Registration district:
Prescot

Registration District Number:
456

Sub-registration district:
Prescot
John Wright Rich 59
Emily Rich 67
Isabella Annie Greenway 33

This is Walter in 1901


Name:
Walter Rich

Age:
8

Estimated birth year:
abt 1893

Relation to Head:
Grandson

Gender:
Male

Father:
Geo Bellamy

Mother:
Mill Bellamy

Birth Place:
Gamston, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish:
Gamston

Ecclesiastical parish:
Gamston St Peter

Town:
Gamston

County/Island:
Nottinghamshire
Registration district:
East Retford

Sub-registration district:
East Retford

Charles Rick 66
Mill Bellamy 38 >>>>>>Daughter to Charles
Geo Bellamy 40
Walter Rich 8
Mary A Bellamy 2
Millicent Bellamy 3/12

In 1911 he is noted as Walter Bellamy


Name:
Walter Bellamy

Age in 1911:
18

Estimated birth year:
abt 1893

Relation to Head:
Son

Gender:
Male

Birth Place:
Gamston, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish:
Gamston and Eaton

County/Island:
Nottinghamshire

Country:
England

Street address:
Gamston Retford

Marital Status:
Single

Occupation:
Farm Service Horseman

Registration district:
East Retford

Millicent Bellamy 48
Walter Bellamy 18
Mary Alice Bellamy 12
Francis Bellamy 5

Teresa I have pm'd you.

Everyone else seems now to have found the info you requested and a lot of it is the same as I have sent you.

Mel

Many thanks to everyone who has helped me tonight :-)

Hello Teresa,
Wonder if you have this information ?.
Marriage
Sept Quarter 1875 Nottingham
John Wright Rich
Married either Emily Coates or Hannah Beresford
Ref Vol 7b Page 339
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1881 Census

? Woodbank
Chester
Cheshire.

Edward Henshaw age 43 b.1838 Burton Cheshire occupation Lab
Rachel Henshaw Wife age 42 b.1839 Rednal Shropshire
Rachel Davies Niece Age 4 b.1877 Woodbank Cheshire
*John Wright Rich Lodger Married age 31 b.1850 Luxford Nottingham Occupupation Gardener (Mkt) *

As John Wright Rich is perhaps working in Chester and staying as a lodger at above address Could this be his wife Emily as married women home alone just across the River Mersey in Liverpool with their children and as previously mentioned she is older than him.

1881 Census
6 Plum Street
Litherland
West Derby
Liverpool
Lancashire.

Emily Rich Wife Head Married age 37 b.1844 bury St Edmund,Suffolk dressmaker.
Emily Rich daughter age 8 b.1873 Bury St Edmund Suffolk
Isabella A Rich Daughter age 3 b.1878 Bury St Edmund Suffolk
Robert Williamson Boarder Single age 25 b.1856 Fife Scotland Engine Fitter.
Thos Harrison Boarder Single age 29 b.1852 Woolton Lancashire Carter..

Hope this helps in some way.
Regards.
Maureen.
Liverpool.U.K.