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Jan

Jan Report 7 Dec 2014 07:44

My husband Is the great grandson of William Henry Toms, Born Wellingborough. Looking for any further information.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Dec 2014 08:04

Would that be Wellingborough, Northamptonshire? If so there is a birth for a William Henry Toms on 8 Dec 1856. Parents Daniel Toms occupation Currier Journeyman and Charlotte Toms formerly Goodman

Do you know who William married?

What kind of info are you looking for?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Dec 2014 08:39

How have you got back to him ?

Some names on the ancestry backwards would help

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Dec 2014 08:40

To ensure that we are lookin at the right family it is best to work back from info that you know is correct. Can you provide the info that got you back to William Henry Toms? Thanks

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Dec 2014 08:49

Daniel Toms born 22nd September 1831 had eleven children - 9 male and two females. My husband, Ian George Daniel Toms, is from the line from the 4th child, William Henry born 1856. Children of Daniel Toms and Charlotte Goodman are as follows:

Mary Ann John Goodman Charles William Henry Mary Ann (?) Joshua George Alfred Frederick Daniel

Septimus Francis Octavius Arthur

(from old query on google search)

http://genforum.genealogy.com/toms/messages/431.html

Chris :)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(above link has below)


Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Wellingborough
Church All Hallows
RegisterNumber 1510
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 22 Sep 1831
Forename Daniel
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname TOMS
Abode Broad Green
FatherOccupation Labourer


Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Wellingborough
Church All Hallows
RegisterNumber 1010
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Feb 1852
Forename Mary Ann
Sex F
FatherForename Daniel
MotherForename Charlotte
FatherSurname TOMS
Abode Knight St
FatherOccupation Currier

Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Wellingborough
Church All Hallows
RegisterNumber 894
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 25 Dec 1863
Forename Alfred
Sex M
FatherForename Daniel
MotherForename Charlotte
FatherSurname TOMS
Abode Northampton
FatherOccupation Currier

Baptism
County Northamptonshire
Place Wellingborough
Church All Hallows
RegisterNumber 1098
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 25 Dec 1864
Forename Frederic Daniel
Sex M
FatherForename Daniel
MotherForename Charlotte
FatherSurname TOMS
MotherSurname
Abode Northampton
FatherOccupation Currier


Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Toms Daniel Wellingboro
Goodman Charlotte Wellingbro 15 625

patchem

patchem Report 7 Dec 2014 08:49

This thread is linked, and as Daniel 1831, is in Jan's tree, as her husband's great great grandfather, then that would be the family.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1347378

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Dec 2014 10:08

PM from Jan

Bertram Trevor Toms father of my husband David
Bertram Henry Toms grandfather
William Henry Toms great grandfather
Daniel Toms great great grandfather

Am looking to find parents and siblings of Daniel. Also would like to find generations further back than this.

Jan is new to the Boards and I have explained how to Reply on her Thread for all helpers to see.

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:09

Possible death:
William H Toms
Birth Date: abt 1857
Date of Registration: Jun 1934
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 53

Northampton Mercury - Friday 06 July 1934
MR W. H. TOMS
Mr William Henry Toms of 19 Stimpson Ave. Northampton, retired shoe manufacturer who died on may 15th last, has left estate of the gross value of #26,596 16s. 6d., with a net personalty #26,511 4s. 9d.

Probate of the will has been granted to his widow, Mrs Ellen Naylor Toms of the same place, and his son, William Alfred Toms of 8 Allen Road, Northampton, shoe manufacturer.

The testator left his household effects not otherwise disposed of- and #500 to his wife 'and the residue of the property in trust for her for life and then for his children in equal shares.

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:12

1841:

John Toms Male 35 1806 Labourer Northamptonshire, England
Mary Toms Female 25 1816 Northamptonshire, England
Daniel Toms Male 10 1831 Northamptonshire, England
Charles Toms Male 7 1834 Northamptonshire, England
Joshua Toms Male 5 1836 Northamptonshire, England
Mary Ann Toms Female 2 1839 Northamptonshire, England

Street Sheep Street
Parish or township Wellingborough
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Registration district Wellingborough
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 801
Book number 7
Folio number 10
Page number 13
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:16

1851:

Thomas Goodman Head Married Male 53 1798 Labourer Northamptonshire,
Sarah Goodman Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Northamptonshire, England
John Goodman Son Son Male 15 1836 Shoe Maker -
Hanh Goodman Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 - Northamptonshire, England
Daniel Toms Lodger Married Male 20 1831 Carrier Wilby, Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Toms Lodger Married Female 22 1829 - Northamptonshire, England
Mary Ann Toms Lodger - Female 0 1851

Street Knight Street
Town Wellingborough
Parish Wellingborough
County Northamptonshire
Registration district Wellingborough
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1743
Folio 542
Page 26
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:19

Marriage for Daniel:

Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
Blackwell Rebecca Wellingbro 15 625
Goodman Charlotte Wellingbro 15 625 <<<<<<<
Guilliam Thomas Wellingboro' 15 625
Rutherford John Wellingbro 15 625
Toms Daniel Wellingboro 15 625 <<<<<<<<<
Wright Lucy Wellingbro 15 625

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:22

1851 (for Daniel's parents)

John Toms Head Married Male 45 1806 Farming Man Irchester, Northamptonshire,
Mary Toms Wife Married Female 38 1813 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire,
Joshua Toms Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Farm Boy Wellingborough, Northamptonshire,
Mary Ann Toms Daughter Unm Female 11 1840 Scholar Wellingborough, Northamptonshire
John Toms Son Unmarried Male 4 1847 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire

House name Burton Lodge
Street Burton Latimer
Parish Burton Latimer
County Northamptonshire
Registration district Kettering
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1744
Folio 28
Page 48

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:26

Daniel's mother possibly a Goodman too

Marriage (family search)

Name: John Toms
Spouse's Name: Mary Goodman
Event Date: 29 Oct 1830
Event Place: Wellingborough, Northampton, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04456-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 2000020 , Reference ID: Item 4 p 220

same marriage (FMP)
First name(s) JOHN
Last name TOMS
Marriage year 1830
Marriage day 29
Marriage month Oct
Marriage place WELLINGBOROUGH ALL HALLOWS
Parish Wellingborough All Hallows
Occupation Labourer
Marital status B
Spouse's first name(s) MARY
Spouse's last name GOODMAN
Spouse's parish Wellingborough All Hallows
Spouse's marital status S
Event Type Marriage
By Banns or licence Banns
County Northamptonshire

Tree on Ancestry gives details of this couple and their younger children emigrating to New Zealand in 1855

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:29

Daniel's wife:

Northampton Mercury - Friday 25 January 1907

DEATHS
TOMS- at 120 Derby Road, Charlotte, the widow of the late Daniel Toms (suddenly) aged 78 years. Loved by all who knew her.

Daniel:
Northampton Mercury - Friday 27 April 1894

DEATHS:
TOMS- April 21st, at 35 Burns Street, Daniel Toms, 62.

Gritty

Gritty Report 7 Dec 2014 10:40

Northampton Mercury - Saturday 19 August 1854

"MR HENRY GENT"S Assignment.
Notice is hereby given, that by indenture bearing date the sixteenth day of August, 1854, HENRY GENT of Wellingborough, in the county of Northampton, Shoe Manufacturer, hath assigned all his personal estate and effects unto William Henry Cooper of Wellingborough, aforesaid Currier, and Daniel Toms, of Wellingborough, aforesaid Currier, in trust for the benefit of themselves..."

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Dec 2014 10:44

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1347381

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Dec 2014 11:58

I too got a PM the same as Londonbelle .

Said I would copy over but as its already on here and look ups have moved on I will leave.

I too advised to reply on the thread and not to individuals so other helpers can see the info sent

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Dec 2014 14:39

Hi Jan

To reply on here..........type in the white box at the bottom and click on "Submit"

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Dec 2014 16:44

Hi Jan

There is a picture on Ancestry of Daniel Toms (1831-1894) and a copy of his Marriage Certificate to Charlotte Goodman are these from your Tree?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Dec 2014 18:12

I've been looking for Daniel in the 1841 census and I've come across this entry

Name: Daniel Jones
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellingborough
Hundred: Hamfordshoe
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Wellingborough
Sub-registration district: Wellingborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 801
Book: 7
Folio: 10
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jones 35
Mary Jones 25
Daniel Jones 10
Charles Jones 7
Joshua Jones 5
Mary Ann Jones 2

Although the family have been transcribed as 'Jones' looking at the actual image I think it could be 'Toms'.

Could someone else have a look at the image and tell me what they think?

I have found baptisms for all the children listed above with parents as John & Mary Toms.

Thanks