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Amyhenry

Amyhenry Report 13 Dec 2014 09:52

Hi. I'm trying to find my great great grandfather who was born in 1838 in Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland who moved to Valance Lodge, Forest and Frith, Teesdale in Durham where he met and married Frances Garget in 1859 when he was 21 years of age and she was 19. They had 4 children, John born1867, Hannah born1873, Peter Emmerson born 1877 and Frances born 1881. I have managed to find out this information when he came to live in Teesdale but I haven't been able to trace any information about his parents and family members in Scotland.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Dec 2014 10:03

Hi Amy and welcome to the boards.

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Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
about John Elliot Name:John Elliot
Gender:Male
Birth Date:11 Oct 1838
Birth Place: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Baptism Place: Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Father: Alexander Elliot
Mother: Mary Tait
FHL Film Number:1067935
Reference ID:2:18BK4Q6

A copy of the marriage cert would confirm who his Father was.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Dec 2014 10:12

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1851 Scotland Census
about John Elliot Name:John Elliot
Age:12
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1839
Relationship:Son
Father: Alexr Elliot
Mother: Mary Elliot
Gender:Male
Where born:Hawick, roxburgh
Civil Parish:Hawick
:Town:Hawick
County:Roxburghshire
Address:High Street

Household Members:

Alexr Elliot 41
Mary Elliot 37
Rachael Elliot 14
John Elliot 12
William Elliot 12
David Elliot 8
Elizabeth Elliot 6
Margaret Elliot 4
Walter Elliot 1
James Little 20
Adam Little 21
Wm Elliot 23

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Dec 2014 10:57

You might find this site useful......

www.Scotlandspeople.gov.uk

It is not a subscription site........you will need to purchase credits.

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Dec 2014 11:08


1861 Scotland Census about John Elliot
Name: John Elliot
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexr Elliot
Mother's name: Mary Elliot
Gender: Male
Where born: Hawick, Roxburghshire
Registration Number: 789
Registration district: Hawick
Civil Parish: Hawick
Town: Hawick
County: Roxburghshire
Address: 23 High St
Occupation: Wool Sorter
ED: 17
Household schedule number: 37
LINE: 22
Roll: CSSCT1861_140
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Elliot 53
Mary Elliot 48
Rachel Elliot 24
John Elliot 22
William Elliot 22
David Elliot 18
Margaret Elliot 13
Walter Elliot 11
Mary Elliot 7
Agnes Elliot 3

Gee

Gee Report 13 Dec 2014 11:09



1861 Scotland Census

Name:Rachel Elliot

Age:24

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837

Relationship:Daughter

Father's Name:
Alexr Elliot

Mother's name:
Mary Elliot

Gender:Female

Where born:Hawick, Roxburghshire

Registration Number:789

Registration district:Hawick

Civil Parish:Hawick

Town:Hawick

County:Roxburghshire

Address:23 High St

Occupation:Woollen Seamen

ED:17

Household schedule number:37

LINE:21

Roll:CSSCT1861_140

Household Members:

Alexr Elliot 53
Mary Elliot 48
Rachel Elliot 24
John Elliot 22
William Elliot 22
David Elliot 18
Margaret Elliot 13
Walter Elliot 11
Mary Elliot 7
Agnes Elliot 3


Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2014 11:10

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1861 England Census about John Elleiot
Name: John Elleiot
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Elleiot
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Holwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Laith Kirk
Town: Holwick
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Teesdale
Sub-registration district: Middleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 3721
Folio: 69
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elleiot 24 Lead Miner
Frances Elleiot 20
George Elleiot 1


Dea x

Gee

Gee Report 13 Dec 2014 11:10


1871 Scotland Census


Name:Rachael Elliot

Age:34

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837

Relationship:Servant

Gender:Female

Where born:Hawick, Roxburghshire

Registration Number:810

Registration district:Wilton

Civil Parish:Wilton

County:Roxburghshire

Address:18 Wilton Crescent

Occupation:Servant (domestic)

ED:2
Household schedule number:125
LINE:2
Roll:CSSCT1871_181

Household Members:

Margaret Turnbull 53
Rachael Elliot 34


Gee

Gee Report 13 Dec 2014 11:14


1881 Scotland Census

Name:Rachel Miles

Age:42

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1839

Relationship:Wife

Spouse's name :John B Miles

Gender:Female

Where born:
Hawick, Roxburghshire

Registration Number:810

Registration district:Wilton

Civil Parish:Wilton

County:Roxburghshire

Address:11 Damside

ED:4
Household schedule number:114
LINE:20

Roll:cssct1881_320

Household Members:

John B Miles 42
Rachel Miles 42
David Miles 17
William G Miles 15
Helen C Miles 13
Robert Miles 11
John G Miles 9
James B Miles 7
Janet B Miles 3
Rachel G Miles 1


Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Dec 2014 11:20

son John ????

1881 Scotland Census about John Elliot
Name: John Elliot
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hawick, Roxburghshire
Registration Number: 794
Registration district: Kirktown
Civil Parish: Cavers
County: Roxburghshire
Address: Deanbrae Cottage
Occupation: (Apprentice) Joiner
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 37
LINE: 10
Roll: cssct1881_319
Household Members:
Name Age
William Inglis 67
Mary Oliver 46
Elizabeth Inglis 31
Andrew Inglis 6
Elizabeth Jane Inglis 2
John Elliot 15
Janet Carfrae 40

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Dec 2014 11:25

marriage
Alexander Elliot
mentioned in the record of Alexander Elliot and Mary Tait
Name: Alexander Elliot
Spouse's Name: Mary Tait
Event Date: 08 Sep 1833
Event Place: Cavers,Roxburgh,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11785-4 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 1067933, 0102285

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2014 11:35

Same family as the 1861 I posted above:

1871 England Census about John Elliott
Name: John Elliott
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Francis Elliott
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Forest and Frith
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Teesdale
Sub-registration district: Middleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 28
Piece: 4947
Folio: 90
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elliott 34 Shepherd
Francis Elliott 30
George Elliott 11
Anne Elliott 8
Margaret Elliott 6
John Elliott 4
Mary Jane Elliott 3
Elizabeth Elliott 10 Months

at Vallance Lodge !

Dea x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Dec 2014 11:50

Note that the John Elliot who is with parents Alexander and Mary on the 1851 census, is also with his parents on the 1861 census.

There is also the John Elliot who is with wife Frances on the 1861 census........so possibly not the same John Elliot?

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2014 11:52


1881 England Census about John Elliott
Name: John Elliott
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Frances Elliott
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Forest and Frith
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Valance Lodge
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Shepherd **
Registration district: Teesdale
Sub registration district: Middleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4936
Folio: 91
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elliott 43
Frances Elliott 41
John Elliott 14
Mary Jane Elliott 13
Elizabeth Elliott 10
Hannah Elliott 8
Janet Elliott 6
Peter Emerson Elliott 4
Frances Elliott

Dea x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Dec 2014 11:56

1891 England Census
about John Elliot Name:John Elliot
Age:53
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1838
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Frances Elliot
Gender:Male
Where born:Scotland
Civil Parish:Forest and Frith
Ecclesiastical parish:Forest and Frith
County/Island:Durham
Country:England

Household Members:

John Elliot 53
Frances Elliot 51
Hannah Elliot 18
Peter Emmaersor Elliot 14
Frances Elliot 10
George Raine 4

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2014 12:01

They are 'alive and kicking' on 1911 census and are stated to have had 10 children - 8 of whom are still alive at that time so a lot more than the original 4 you quoted.

Dea x

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Dec 2014 12:12

there are these all about the same time

John Elliot

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 6 September 1838
christening: 7 October 1838 , CASTLETON, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND
residence: 1838 Castleton, Roxburgh, Scotland

father: Walter Elliot
mother: Janet Dinwoodie

John Elliot

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 11 October 1838 , Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
christening: , HAWICK, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND
residence: 1838 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland

father: Alexander Elliot
mother: Mary Tait

John Elliot

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 10 August 1838
christening: 6 October 1838 , CASTLETON, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND
residence: 1838 Castleton, Roxburgh, Scotland

father: John Elliot
mother: Fanny Wilson

John Little Elliot

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 16 September 1839 , Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
christening: , HAWICK, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND
residence: 1839 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland

father: Thomas Elliot
mother: Margaret Hume

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Dec 2014 15:08

As Amy is a new poster, I will send her a PM to let her know she had received replies.

Prickles. :-)

Amyhenry

Amyhenry Report 13 Dec 2014 16:40

Hi. Thank you so much for all the information you have sent me regarding my great great grandfather. I have sent for his marriage certificate and hopefully this will give me his father's name. I haven't been researching my family history for very long and I have found it pretty straightforward until I tried to find John Elliot due to him being born in Scotland.

Once again many thanks for your help.

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2014 16:58

Do come back onto this thread when you receive the cert and let us know the details please.

Dea x