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I am not sure how to trace the certificates as I do not know who they married

I am trying to trace marriage certificates for :Edward A Porter. Born 1895 in Southwark, London.

William Porter.Born 1898 in Southwark London.

They used to live at 253 Scovell Road, Southwark.

I am trying to learn the ropes in tracing our ancestors.

Thank you for reading and any help you can give me.

Shirley.

As a starting point, just for our reference:

1911 England Census about Edward A Porter
Name: Edward A Porter
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Southwark, London, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 253 Scovell Road, Southwark, London S E
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: CLERK
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr West
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 1791
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Porter 38
Emily Porter 37
Edward A Porter 16
Nellie Porter 15
William Porter 13
Harry Porter 6
Ivy Porter 1

Do you know that he actually did marry, and if so, do you know any of his children's names?

!!!!!

NAME: Edward Albert Porter
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1894
AGE: 21
SPOUSE: Ivory Lillian Ballantyne
SPOUSE AGE: 21
RECORD TYPE: Marriage
EVENT DATE: 7 Mar 1915
PARISH: St George the Martyr
BOROUGH: Southwark
FATHER NAME: James Porter
SPOUSE FATHER: David Ballantyne
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registe

Edward Albert Porter, bachelor, clerk of 253 Scovell Road<<<<<<<<<<<

Father James Porter, machine minder.

Bride a spinster of 221 Southwark Bridge road.

Her father David Ballantyne a gas fitter.

Witnesses Isabel and David Ballantyne.

Taken from the London Metropolitan Archives collection on Ancestry.

That'll be it, Kucinta.

Although Edward's father's name is Edward in 1911, in 1901 it's Edward J - so presumably Edward James.

Incidentally, "Ivory" is Ivy on FreeBMD.




1901 England Census about Emily Porter
Name: Emily Porter
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Edward J Porter
Birth Place: Plymouth
Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St George the Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 366
Folio: 126
Page Number: 54
Household schedule number: 306
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward J Porter 30
Emily Porter 27
Edward Porter 6
Ellen Porter 5
William Porter 3

I'll pm(private message) a copy of the marriage register as it has all the information you would find on the marriage cert.

Kucinta

Just maybe William's marriage???


William Albert Porter
mentioned in the record of William Albert Porter and Violet Rose Lawrence
Name: William Albert Porter
Birth Date: 1898
Age: 31
Spouse's Name: Violet Rose Lawrence
Spouse's Birth Date: 1902
Spouse's Age: 27
Event Date: 25 Dec 1929
Event Place: Newington, London
Father's Name: Edward James Porter
Spouse's Father's Name: Arthur Edward Lawrence
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01872-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 475308 , Reference ID: v 4 p 217

Just to show Argyllgran has right names for William on the marriage she posted, presumably he reversed them later.

NAME: Edward Albert Porter
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 29 Jul 1894
FATHER'S NAME: Edward James Porter
MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
BOROUGH: Lambeth
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

Queens Buildings 92 Co??son ST Southwark Bridge road. Father a machine minder. EDIT Born June 13th 1894.

Father's name changes again on William's baptism!

NAME: Albert William Porter
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 21 Nov 1897
FATHER'S NAME: Edward Albert Porter
MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Southwark Christ Church
BOROUGH: Southwark
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

156 Queen Buildings Southwark Bridge Rd. Father a machine manager. No birth date recorded.

A sister born between the two boys, presumably the Nellie of 1911?

NAME: Ellen Rose Porter
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 19 Jan 1896
FATHER'S NAME: Edward James Porter
MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Southwark St Saviour
BOROUGH: Southwark
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

92 Queen's Buildings. Father a machine manager. Born 5th July 1895

RE the Ivory/Ivy for Edward's wife; on the marriage register she has been recorded as Ivory Lillian Ballantyne, but she has signed the register as Ivy Lilian Ballantyne.

Looks like she was baptised as Ivy:

NAME: Ivy Lilian Ballantine
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 3 Jul 1895
FATHER'S NAME: David Ballantine
MOTHER'S NAME: Elizabeth Ballantine
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: Southwark St Peter
BOROUGH: Southwark
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

Born 18th aug 1893. Father a gas fitter's labourer , living at 5a Moss Alley. Elder sister Isabel Louisa and younger sister Madeline baptised the same day.

Looks like little Harry's baptism:

NAME: Lionel Henry Porter
RECORD TYPE: Baptism
BAPTISM DATE: 25 Sep 1904
FATHER'S NAME: Edward James Porter
MOTHER'S NAME: Emily Porter
PARISH OR POOR LAW UNION: St George the Martyr
BOROUGH: Southwark
REGISTER TYPE: Parish Registers

168 Scovell Rd Queens Buildings. Born Aug 4th 1904. Father a printer.

LMA baptism collection stops at 1906 so can't look for Ivy Porter from the 1911 there.