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If I have posted about this before I apologise, 'Ive looked back over old posts but can't find anything
I have a relative on my tree Alice Margaret Wakenshaw b 1858/9 in Chatton Northumberland

On her baptism record which I found on Familysearch in the Durham Bishops transcripts she is recorded as being the illegitimate child of Margaret Wakenshaw (my gt gt grandmother and Cassley/Carsley MOAK of Morris, Otsego ( a husbandman) nwhich appears to be NY state in USA. Name not verified could also be Cassler see below

I am trying to find out a bit more about him and what he was doing in Chatton, when did he come, how did he get here, when did he go back

also found this

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=81662932

Margaret went on to marry later and have another family from whcih I am decsended but this story intrigues me.

any help in padding out this information would be great

thanks

Jan

Anyone any good at finding out USA records etc

hi
this must be the marriage of the moak on the grave link so it cannot be his christian name his mother was cassier could he have served in the army

Jacob Moak
mentioned in the record of Jacob Moak and Eleanor Cassler
Name: Jacob Moak
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Cassler
Event Date: 09 Nov 1828
Event Place: First Reformed Protestant Dutch Church,Glen,Montgomery,New York

That fits the two names on the link from the cemetery, so his parents marriage record?

1850 US Census

Household Members



First name(s)

Last name

Gender:

Age

Birth year

Birth place



Jacob Moak Male 48 1802 New York
?

Eleanor Moak Female 46 1804 New York
?

Mary C Moak Female 21 1829 New York
?

Peter C Moak Male 20 1830 New York ???????
?

Ann E Moak Female 18 1832 New York
?

Sarah E Moak Female 16 1834 New York
?

Peter Moak Male 43 1807 New York

C for Cassley, Carsley, Cassler............?

1880 census
Jacob Moak Self Widowed Male 80 1800 New York, United States
?

Castellor Moak Son Single Male 50 1830 New York, United States
?

James Lull Grandson Single Male 12 1868 New York, United States
?

Daratha Woodbeck Other Single Female 52 1828 New York, United States
?

Carrie Thorn Other Single Female 15 1865 New York, United States

http://taterhollow.com/OHS2010/history1976/history1976_16.htm
from the Otego Historical Societys

1855 State Census for New York

Name: Jacob Moak
Birth Year: abt 1802
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Relation to Head: Head
Residence: Morris, Otsego, New York, USA
Household number: 106
Line Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Moak 53
Eleaner Moak 51
Casper Moak 25
Ann Moak 21
Sarah E Moak 19

Well, thanks all, he has had a few versions of his name now but I am pretty sure these are all the same man

I don't suppose anyone can fnd him on any passenger lists from US to UK or back betwwen 1855 and 1865?

I dont curently have an Ancestry subs

Castler Moak

in the U.S., Civil War Draft Registrations Records, 1863-1865
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Name: Castler Moak, farmer
Residence: Otsego, New York
Class: 1
Congressional District: 19th
Age on 1 July 1863: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Race: White
Marital Status: Unmarried (Single)
Place of Birth: New York

Passenger records on FMP cover 1890-1960, and I suspect that Ancestry is the same

The man was obviously given his mother's maiden name as a first name................far from unusual

Thanks Alviegal

So a few years after he was here in Northumberland passing on his genes he went back to the US to be drafted for the Civil War !

This is an interesting story

See if the family is mentioned on this old newspaper site
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

There is another one whose name escapes me.

Thanks Detective

First one I find says in feb 1893 he was appointed to the executive committee of the Otsego County Hop growers, about 7 months before he died

I had no luck in the passenger records for any Moak but I also checked to see if Alice's mother went to the USA,again no luck.

Thank you for looking for me Thelma

Alice's mother Margaret married my gt gt grandfather Joseph Campbell in 1863 in Newcastle and went on to start our branch of the family in that area of the country.

Just an interesting story I am trying to pad out with facts