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\Thanks everyone, but still no 1861 census?

The Settlement papers could refer to this -

The Poor Relief Act 1662 (14 Car 2 c 12) was an Act of the Cavalier Parliament of England. It was an Act for the Better Relief of the Poor of this Kingdom and is also known as the Settlement Act or, more honestly, the Settlement and Removal Act. The purpose of the Act was to establish the parish to which a person belonged (i.e. his/her place of "settlement"), and hence clarify which parish was responsible for him should he become in need of Poor Relief (or "chargeable" to the parish poor rates). This was the first occasion when a document proving domicile became statutory: these were called "settlement certificates".

The Settlement Act was repealed in 1834 (under the terms of the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834, which introduced the Union Workhouse), although not fully. The concept of parish settlement has been characterised as "incompatible with the newly developing industrial system", because it hindered internal migration to factory towns.

It was finally repealed by section 245 of, and Schedule 11 to, the Poor Law Act 1927 (c.14) and by the Statute Law Revision Act 1948.

I am not sure that the words written are to do with Humphrey or the Charles Watson whose name is above him as there is a wiggley line down from the name of Charles.

This all reads:-

Born in Mankers Lane Ringstow lived after 2 years in Hack y Rd a Baker father lives as above and born at Temple Bar.

Passed to Bethnal Green about 5 years ago.

So it could be to do with Charles Watson and nothing written after Humphrey?????

Found it it says.

22 Feb Humphrey Fowl 12 Amhurst Terrace Widower passed to Bethnal Green about 5 years ago.

Where did you find the settlement papers please?

He was born in Lewes, Sussex
The only people living at 12 Amhurst Terrace on the 1861 cencus were his son Humphrey and his family

1851 (Find My Past) (Reference)
Thomas Bond Head Married Male 37 1814 Carman At Messenger Dodds Essex, England
Susannah Bond Wife Married Female 35 1816 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Susannah Elizth Bond Daughter - Female 5 1846 Scholar Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Humphrey Fowle Visitor Widower Male 60 1791 Master Boot Maker Shoreditch, England
Henry Richd Fowle Visitor Unmarried Male 22 1829 Shoe Maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Street Poole Street
Parish Saint Leonard Shoreditch
City Tower Hamlets
County Middlesex
Parliamentary borough Tower Hamlets
Registration district Shoreditch
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1536
Folio 475
Page 42

Chris :)

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)

Henry Fowle 12 Jul 1829 (Born 23 June 1829) Shoreditch St Leonard Hackney Humphrey Fowle, (Shoe Maker)
Catherine Fowle

(possible Marriage Banns Hackney 1819. Humphrey Fowle, Catherine Ball)

edits

http://www.familytreeforum.com/showthread.php/106415-Humphrey-Fowle

(1861 couldn't be found on above query for Rick)

Sorry, no luck either for 1861, but in 1856 he was at the address you have given so he may well be there?????

Name: Humphrey Fowle
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1788
Baptism Date: 16 Nov 1798
Baptism Place: St. Thomas-in-the-Cliffs, Lewes, Sussex, England
Father: William Fowle
Mother: Susanna
FHL Film Number: 1067241
Reference ID: item 9

He died the 13th November at the workhouse and they did'nt know his occupation. Aged 81.

Name: Humphrey Fowle
Age: 85
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England************************
Civil Parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton St Barnabas
Town: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: Hackney Union Workhouse
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 327
Folio: 171
Page Number: 8
Household Members:

for ref:-

Name: Humphrey Fowl
Age: 70
Birth Year: abt 1786
Record Type: Settlement Papers
Event Date: Abt 1856
Poor Law Union or Parish: Hackney
Residence: Hackney
Reference Number: HABG/195/004

same address as given.

Is this him in 1871?

Name: Humphrey Fowle
Age: 85
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
xxxx Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England xxxx
Civil Parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton St Barnabas
Town: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: Hackney Union Workhouse
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 327
Folio: 171
Page Number: 8

He lived Hackney area but where was he born?

I am having trouble with this relative of mine and cannot understand what happened to him in about 1861. In 1851 he was a visitor in a household which stats he was a Master Boot maker with (I think) 3 employees. I cannot find any record of him on the 1861 census, but on 22 Feb 1861 there were some settlement papers for the poor, but cannot understand the writing! It says his address is 12 Amhurst Terrace, Hackney. In the 1871 census he was in Hackney Union Workhouse, and, I think, died there in 1872. Incidentally his son Humphrey (my GT grandfather X2) lived in 12 Amhurst Terrace all his life. What I would like to know is where Humphrey was in 1861, and how I can find out how he ended up in the workhouse?