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Can any one help?? Ellen was the sister of a Edward Hayman who married my fathers sister Louisa on the 15th of April 1922. My father Harry Clayton and Louisa were orphaned when he was 7 and Louisa was 13 i have no information as to where they went only when she got married can any one help me
Kind regards Patrick Clayton

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MARRIAGE

Name: Louisa Clayton
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 25
Father's name: Harry Clayton
Spouse's Name: Edward Alfred Hayman
Spouse's Age: 25
Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1922
Marriage Place: Whitechapel, London, England




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3 Campbell Road Stratford E, West Ham, Essex, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Louisa Clayton Head Widow Female - 38 1873 London
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Louisa Clayton Daughter - Female - 14 1897 London Mile End New Town
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Harry John Clayton Son - Male School 7 1904 Essex West Ham



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Campbell Road, West Ham, Essex, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harry Clayton Head Married Male 32 1869 Druggists Assistt Surrey, England
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Louisa Clayton Wife Married Female 30 1871 - St George in the East, Middlesex, England
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Louisa Clayton Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Mile End, Middlesex, England



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louisa clayton was my father sister i know she had a child vera with edward alfred hay man is there any more children?

Name: Edward Alfred Hayman
Year: 1933
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Chertsey
Place of Abode: 35 Cartref
Reference Number: CC802/50/1


With Louisa



Name: Edward Alfred Hayman
Year: 1939
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Chertsey
Place of Abode: 20 CHANDOS ROAD, Staines
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With Louie.



Name: Edward A Hayman
Year: 1945
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Chertsey
Place of Abode: 20 Clovelly
Reference Number: CC802/56A/2/6

On his own at 20 Charta Rd

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Edward Alfred Hayman

in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
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Name: Edward Alfred Hayman
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Corporal
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment)
Regimental Number: G.S/10008
Previous Units: 3/R. Fus. Cpl. GS/10008, 9/R. Fus., 1/R. Fus., 17/R. Fus.

Possible death for Louisa?

First name(s) LOUISA
Last name HAYMAN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1898
Age 43
Death quarter 1
Death year 1941
District STAINES
County Middlesex
Volume 3A
Page 59


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First name(s) EDWARD A
Last name HAYMAN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1897
Age 61
Death quarter 1
Death year 1958
District MIDDLESEX SOUTH
County Middlesex
Volume 5F
Page 79

There are these 2 Ellen C Haymans.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Coombs Street, St Luke, Holborn, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Harpman Head Married Male 42 1849 Joiner Bath, Somerset, England
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Emma Harpman Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
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John Chas Harpman Son Single Male 9 1882 - Islington, Middlesex, England
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Alfred E Harpman Son Single Male 8 1883 - Islington, Middlesex, England
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Emma J Harpman Daughter Single Female 5 1886 - Middlesex, England
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Ellen C Harpman Daughter Single Female 3 1888 - Middlesex, England

Does read Hayman, I think.


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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Margaret Street, Clerkenwell, Holborn, London, England

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William Hayman Head Married Male 30 1861 Brewer Drayman Devon, England
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Emma Hayman Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Devon, England
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Ellen C Hayman Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

no more children on bdm

Where did you get Ellen C's name from please?

from family search, father uk
Edward Alfred Hayman
mentioned in the record of Edward Alfred Hayman and Louisa Clayton
Name Edward Alfred Hayman
Birth Date 1897
Age 25
Spouse's Name Louisa Clayton
Spouse's Birth Date 1897
Spouse's Age 25
Event Date 1922
Event Place St. Mary, Whitechapel,Middlesex, England
Father's Name Unknown
Spouse's Father's Name Harry Clayton

2 possible marriages


Ellen C Hayman
mentioned in the record of Needham and Ellen C Hayman
Name Ellen C Hayman
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1919
Registration District Islington
County London
Event Place Islington, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Needham
Volume 1B
Page 557
Line Number 60

Ellen C Hayman probably married one of the following people
Name Henry T Needham

Ellen C Hayman
mentioned in the record of Eldridge and Ellen C Hayman
Name Ellen C Hayman
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1920
Registration District Edmonton
County Middlesex
Event Place Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Eldridge
Volume 3A
Page 1591
Line Number 21

Ellen C Hayman probably married one of the following people
Name Thomas J Eldridge

Ellen Catherine Hayman born 25/8/1887 baptised by William John and Emma.

Ellen Catherine Needham says born 25/8/1888 a year out died Sept 1976 Windsor Berkshire V19 P0630

Witness to their marriage were Alfred Edward Hayman and John f Morgan.

it says her dad Alfred a carpenter dead.

1891 Old street St Luke
John Hayman a joiner born bath 1849 I think this should be William John/John william

1901 Islington
John Hayman a carpenter born bath

1911 Islington 156,Packington Street.
Emma Hayman widow 4 children 1 died
Alfred 1883 Finsbury musical instrument packer
Ellen 1888 Finsbury.

Alfred Edward Hayman born 14/2/1883 died Watford 1973 4b 492

Maryb.

Welcome to the Community boards Patrick.



(I'll let Patrick know how to find his replies) :-)

First of all many thanks to all for you're input
THANK YOU
My research points me to Ellen was married to Thomas J Eldridge when i don't know, or if they had any children, if they did have children they hopefully can give me any information on my father's sister Louisa Hayman, can any one help me again?
Many thanks again Best regards Patrick Clayton

Ellen Catherine married Needham,other Ellen C married 1920 to Thomas J Eldridge.

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Ellen Caroline Hayman baptised dec 1888 by William a brewers drayman and Emma Hayman of 57,Maynard St.

1891 57,Maynard St Clerkenwell
William 1861 Devon
Emma 1856 Devon
Ellen 1888

1945 20,Charta Road Chertsey Surrey.
Ellen C Eldridge
Edward A Hayman (He was there 1938 with louise)


Edit now I see probate for Edward Alfred Hayman of 20 Charta Rd Chertsey died 1958 went to to Ellen Catherine Eldridge widow

Ellen Catherine Eldridge 4/3/1891 died 1989.
Female Hayman born @ 4/3/1891 baptised by Catherine Hayman age 22 at Stepney.

Maryb.

Catherine Hayman single woman born @ 1870/1 had Ellen Catherine baptised 4/3/1891 Mile End Stepney.
Edward 29/9/1896 Whitechapel

Alice 30/10/1897 some have her as Alice Agnes Hayman who married Samuel Pike in Vancouver,she died Vancouver 10/8/1981 they also have a photo of her on ancestry.co.uk

Ernest O/N/D 1900 hackney died 1901 age 17 months.
Sidney his twin in 1901 they are in the workhouse as is Alice.
Sidney Hayman 30/10/1901 died in Peterborough 1969.

There are lots of records regarding Catherine and her children,poor law,removals,workhouse admissions etc on ancestry.co.uk

2/1/1903 Catherine 33,Edward 6,Alice 3 were removed to Whitechapel.

Maryb.

Once again many Thanks to those who inputed THANK YOU
Just 1 more request
Is there any siblings of Ellen Catherine Hayman married to Thomas J Eldridge in 1920 and died in 1989 who can give me any information about my fathers sister Louisa Hayman who married Edward Alfred Hayman.
Kind Regards Patrick Clayton

Hi
Once again I'm trying to find any siblings of Edward Alfred Hayman who married my fathers sister Louisa Clayton in 1922 at St Mary's Whitechapel or any siblings of Ellen C Hayman who married in 1919 a Needman in Islington London Louisa was my fathers sister who were orphaned when she was 13 and my father was 8. Can any one out there help please.
Best Regards Patrick Clayton

Hayman Household (2 People) 20 Charta Road West , Egham U.D., Surrey, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Edward A Hayman 28 Sep 1896 Liftman Lino Work
Louisa Hayman 30 Mar 1897 Unpaid Domestic Duty

Dea x

Hi Dea
First of all many thanks for input
Just hit a brick wall as regards finding siblings any advice?
Kind Regards Patrick Clayton xx

Using http://www.bathbmd.org.uk/ there are two possible births for one of the Ellen's dad
Bath Birth indexes for the years: 1848
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAYMAN John Walcot - First Series Bath LOVE WL1/8/313

Bath Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAYMAN John William Walcot - First Series Bath BABY WL1/10/169


with these 2 marrs:
Bath Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAYMAN John LOVE Sarah Bath, Holy Trinity (Monmouth Place) Bath C2/1/272
[By 1871, both John Snr & John Jr are carpenters:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFJB-B52 ]

Bath Marriage indexes for the years: 1848
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAYMAN William BABY Mary Ann Bath Register Office Bath RO1/7/092
[This 1871 lodger, a gardener, looks like the other John:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBDM-8K9 ]



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Using http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy there is a BC d.cert for Agnes Pike, wid/o Samuel Pike.
However, Agnes, d/o John & Margaret Buchanan, was b in Ontario 3/7/1894 and died in Kelowna 1/1/1988.
Vancouver is 400km and 4 hrs from Kelowna - it was longer, and closer to 5hrs back in 1988.
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/genealogy-images/Phase2/DTH/DTH_1988000717.jpg

I don't see how she's any connection.