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trying to find more details on a William sturgeon born a round 1890- 1900 in bury st Edmunds he married a Annie Mary palmer a war widow who had two children trying to find her first husband name and details plus the two children by first husband , her maiden name was seeley /sealey/seely
she married William sturgeon 22/5/1920 they had six children
any info would be great full and thank you all for taking the time to help :-D

Marriage of William and Annie (no middle name recorded for either)

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name STURGEON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1920
MarriageFinder™ WILLIAM STURGEON married
ANNIE PALMER
Spouse's last name PALMER
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 2396

This looks like her first marriage:-

First name(s) ROBERT HENRY
Last name PALMER
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ROBERT HENRY PALMER married one of these people
EDITH FLORENCE LAST, *****ANNIE SEELEY*****
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
District number -
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 1312

Kath. x

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) ANNIE
Last name SEELEY
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ANNIE SEELEY married one of these people
WALTER JOSIAH BUCKELL, ROBERT HENRY PALMER, ERNEST ARTHUR STONE
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
District number -
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 1312

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
28 Westgate St Bury St Eds, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Henry Palmer Head Married Male Gas Company Labourer 30 1881 Suffolk Horringer
Annie Palmer Wife Married Female - 25 1886 Suffolk Bury St Edmunds
George Edward Seeley Stepson Single Male School 4 1907 Suffolk Bury St Edmunds
Ivy Lucy Palmer Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Suffolk Bury St Edmunds
Nellie Seelay Sister In Law - Female School 13 1898 Suffolk Bury St Edmunds

Robert Henry Palmer in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name: Robert Henry Palmer
Birth Place: Horringer, Suffolk
Death Date: 12 Oct 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Bury St. Edmunds
Rank: Private
Regiment: Suffolk Regiment
Battalion: 8th Battalion
Regimental Number: 5446
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Other Records: Search for 'Robert Henry Palmer' in other WWI collections
War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany): Search for 'Suffolk Regiment' in the WWI War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany) collection
War Diaries (Gallipoli): Search for 'Suffolk Regiment' in the WWI War Diaries (Gallipoli) collection

Possible birth for the eldest child (born before Annie's first marriage):-

First name(s) GEORGE EDWARD
Last name SEELEY
Birth year 1906
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 941

and the second child from her marriage to first husband:-

First name(s) IVY L
Last name PALMER
Birth year 1910
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 929

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Street, Horringer, Thingoe, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charlotte Palmer Head Widow Female 56 1835 Charwoman Little Saxham, Suffolk, England
William Palmer Son Single Male 36 1855 Agricultural Labourer Horringer, Suffolk, England
Margret Palmer Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Domestic Servant Horringer, Suffolk, England
Henry R Palmer Grandson Single Male 8 1883 - Horringer, Suffolk, England

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ANNIE
Last name STURGEON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1887
Age 74
Death quarter 1
Death year 1961
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
County Suffolk
Volume 4B
Page 1217

What makes you think William Sturgeon was born 1890-1900? Is it just because you think it may tie up with Annie's age/the date of the marriage or do you have something more definite?

greyghost that was a rough date of birth for William, I know nothing about any family member after annie and William a family member said they thou William dad was called fred/ ferdrick ?????
that's why I said any info would be good , so far you and Kathleen bell have been great ;-)

Use this free site to check for the names of the children of both marriages (make sure you use Annie's maiden name to check for those of second marriage). There are 6 show up as you say to the second marriage, all in Bury St Ed's Reg District 1921-1931.

The second child registered as Palmer from the first marriage was born 1912

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

You can then use the same free site to check for possible marriages of all the offspring

If you buy William and Annie's marriage certificate it may give their ages (although it may only say "of full age"). It should also name William's father which would make it easier to find him in the census. William's occupation from the certificate may also help.

Kath. x

This might help:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=146291398&PIpi=121078614

It's their burial stone:

In Memory of William Sturgeon died 7th May 1974 aged 82 years.
Also his Wife Annie died 9th January 1961 aged 74 years
Greatly loved, sadly missed.
---------------------------------------------

So possibly this death?

Name: William Sturgeon
Birth Date: 17 May 1891
Date of Registration: Jun 1974
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Bury St edmunds
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10 Page: 2116

EDIT - IGNORE THIS. Greyghost's find below looks better.

I wonder if he used his middle name? There is this possible birth:-

First name(s) ARTHUR WILLIAM
Last name STURGEON
Birth year 1891
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District THINGOE
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 781

Kath. x

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Green, Hartest, Sudbury, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Fred G Sturgeon Head Married Male 44 1857 Painter Hartest, Suffolk, England
Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Fred A Sturgeon Son - Male 12 1889 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
William Sturgeon Son - Male 9 1892 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
Albert Sturgeon Son - Male 5 1896 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
Edith Sturgeon Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Hartest, Suffolk, England

EDIT - IGNORE THIS - see Greyghost's post above.

If the above Arthur William WAS your William then this is him in the 1901 census:-

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cottage Near the Avove, Little Walnetham, Little Whelnetham, Thingoe, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Alfred Sturgeon Head Married Male 40 1861 Horse Man On Farm Suffolk, England
Anna Sturgeon Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Suffolk, England
Lillian M Sturgeon Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Teacher In School Suffolk, England
Percy G Sturgeon Son Single Male 12 1889 - Suffolk, England
Arthur W Sturgeon Son Single Male 10 1891 - Suffolk, England

Kath. x

Father Frederick:

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Sturgeon
Service number TS/9316
Regiment Royal Army Service Corps
Unit / Battalion 122nd Company, 28th Divisional Training Company
Event year 1915
Age 24
Birth year 1892
Birth county Suffolk
Birth country England
Residence county Essex
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920

He was a shoeing smith living in Essex, but his father (next of kin) is given as Frederick- Hartest Green, Bury St. Edmunds.

Fits with Greyghost's 1901 census

EDIT - The birth Chris has found on page 2 of this thread is a more likely one than the one below.

Possible birth:-

First name(s) WILLIAM AVEY
Last name STURGEON
Birth year 1892
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District THINGOE
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 744

Kath. x

Possible for parent's marriage:-

First name(s) FREDERICK GEORGE
Last name STURGEON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1884
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ FREDERICK GEORGE STURGEON married
ELLEN WARNER
District SUDBURY
District number -
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 1001

Kath. x