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In search of confirming the whereabouts of the early years and parents/ancestors of my Great, Great Grandmother MARY CALVELEY, C1856, ROCKFERRY, BIRKENHEAD & her father JOSEPH CALVELEY (Possibly C1829 or 1833)?

I have included all known & possible information I can find for both so hope it's not too confusing to read. Hoping someone may be able to help me in some way with this.
Thanks so much in advance for your time.

KNOWN FACTS:

Alice Coles, Daughter to Mary, Born Stretford, Manchester, 02/10/1887

Date of Birth for Mary on census and Birth Registry's don't appear to tally (1856/59/60)

Marriage Record of Mary Calveley shows birth in 1856 (age 21yr)
Married @ St Mary, Birkenhead to William Henry Coles on 2nd Sept 1879.
Spouses Father Joseph Calveley (Q3, 8A,605,17).
(I have suspicions her brother possibly another Joseph (C1864) walked her down the aisle, and that perhaps her father may not have been named Joseph at all).

I have confirmed (after marriage) for Mary:
1891 Census, Sykes Street, Hulme.
Father - William H Coles, Born 1861 (30), Rugeley, Staffs, Head, Stationers Porter
Mother- Mary Coles, Born 1860 (31) Rockferry, Wife
Brother- William E Coles, Born 1881 (10)
Brother- Henry Coles, Birkenhead, Born 1882 (9)
Sister - Elizabeth Coles, Born 1884 (7), Birkenhead
& Alice Born 1888 (3) Birkenhead

1881 Census, 105 Beckwith Street, Birkenhead
William H Coles, 1857, 24, Head, Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire, Letter Carrier & Sorter
Mary Coles, 1856, 25, Wife, Rockferry, Cheshire (no occ)
William E Coles, 1881, 0 (3wks), Son, Birkenhead,
(In 1881 Parents & Family of William H living at Cleveland Ave, Birkenhead)

RESEARCH:

There are 3 birth records for a Mary Calveley within a 10 year period in same area.
1) Mary Calveley, Born Quarter 3, 1853, Wirral
(Cheshire BMD: 1853, Born Woodchurch, Wirral, WOO/6/98)
2) Mary Calveley, Born Quarter 4, 1865, Birkenhead
(Cheshire BMD: 1865, Born Tranmere, Wirral, TRA/5/97)
Cheshire BMD search included 1837 to 1870 inclusive.
3) Mary Calvely, Born Quarter 4, 1854, Wirral
(genesreunited vol8a,pg371,12)

For Joseph Calveley I have found 2 listed around The Wirral/Birkenhead, but unable to confirm which is the correct one.
1) Born 1829, Higher Bebington
Baptism 19/05/1829 Parents: Joseph Calveley (1792) & Martha Sutton (1792)
Census 1841 in Lower Bebington (only Calveley, aged 12)
2) Born1833, Bromborough
Baptism 13/04/1833 Parents: Robert & Mary Calveley, Died C1864?
Marriage: Joseph CALVELY to Elizabeth Hassall, Liverpool,1854 (8B,60,6)

I have also found the below censuses but unable to confirm which Mary, and which household:

1861 Censuses again are inconsistant with birth dates:
1) 1 Runners Court, Upton Road, Claughton, Birkenhead
Mary Calvely, 1853, 8, Claughton, Daugh
John Calvely, 1815, 46, Stoneton, Cheshire, Head, Stone Quarrier
Mary Calvely, 1818, 43, Manley, Cheshire, Wife
John Calvely, 1840, 21, Bebington, Cheshire, Son, Stone Quarrier
Samuel Calvely, 1850, 11, Claughton, Son, Scholar
Sarah Calvely, 1851, 10, Claughton, Daughter
Stanley Calvely, 1855, 6, Claughton, Son
Alice Calvely, 1857, 4, Claughton, Daughter
Elizabeth Calvely, 1859, 2, Claughton, Daughter
Thomas Calvely, 1861, 0, Claughton, Son

1871 Censuses again are inconsistant with birth dates
1) Village, Claughton-cum-Grange, Birkenhead
Mary Calveley, 1854, 17, Daugh
Mary Calveley, 1819, 52, Head
Stanley Calveley, 1855, 16, Son
Alice Calveley, 1858, 13, Daugh
Elizabeth Calveley, 1860, 11, Daugh
Martha Calveley, 1865, 6, Daugh
Emily Calveley, 1871, 0,

2) 87 Greenway Road, Tranmere, Birkenhead (could it be this one, where's Joseph?)
Mary Calveley, 1855, 16, Bebington, Cheshire, Step-Daughter
Robert Calveley, 1862, 9, Bebington, Cheshire, Step-Son
Joseph Calveley, 1864, 7, Bebington, Cheshire, Step-Son
Henry Taylor, 1839, 32, (Salop, Ellesmere), Shropshire, Head, Joiner
Elizabeth Taylor, 1835, 36, (Salop, Whitchurch), Shropshire, Wife (was she Calveley?)
Samuel Tayor, 1867, 4, Cheshire, Son
Elizabeth Taylor, 1871, 0, Cheshire, Daughter

1881 Census - 34 Vulcan Street, Birkenhead
(Cannot be this one though as Mary already married living at Beckwith St)
Mary Calverley, 1865, 16, Claughton, Daughter, Domestic Servant
John Calveley, 1851, 30, Claughton, Head, Boiler Maker
Elizabeth Calveley, 1837, 44, Cheshire, Wife
John P Calveley, 1862, 19, Cheshire, Son, Gardener (Dom)
Eliza Calverley, 1869, 12, Birkenhead, Daugh, Scholar
Walter Calveley, 1875, 6, Birkenhead, Son, Scholar

I think your assumption re: the 1871 with Taylors could be correct:

Marriages Dec 1865
Calveley Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 823 ???
Gellatly George W Derby 8b 823
Hodgson Jessie Jane W. Derby 8b 823
Taylor Henry W Derby 8b 823 ???

ADDED:

Here's the image - she was a widow

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/19990034

Possibly the first marriage:

Marriages Mar 1854
Calvely Joseph Liverpool 8b 60 ??
GREGORY Mary Liverpool 8b 60
Hassall Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 60 ??
HINCKSMAN Thomas Liverpool 8b 60

ADDED:

England, Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Joseph Calvely
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 12 Feb 1854
Marriage Place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Robert Calvely
Spouse: Elizabeth Hassall, father Joseph Hassall (matches the 1865 marriage)
FHL Film Number: 1656678
Reference ID: it 4, p 74, no 147

Struggling so far to find Elizabeth, Joseph and daughter Mary in 1861, think this is his death:

Deaths Mar 1864
CALVELEY Joseph Birkenhead 8a 373

I think this is the baptism of brother Joseph:

Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Baptism) 17th Century-1910

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name CALVELEY
Gender Male
Birth year 1863
Birth date 17 Nov 1863
Baptism year 1863
Baptism date Dec 1863
Chapel Bebington, Walker Street Wesleyan Methodist Chapel
Father's first name Joseph
Father's last name Calveley
Mother's first name Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Place TRANMERE
County Cheshire
Country England

Thank you so much MarieCeleste.
I was struggling to find the marriage of Taylor, but yes it confirms the surname Hassall and also matches sadly with the registered death of a Joseph Calveley.
Oh wow yes, I see Mary's brother Joseph also has father listed as Joseph Calveley & mother Elizabeth. Robert Calvely father of Joseph confirms what I have seen in another tree, but was unable to put it all together until now. So that would make Joseph the one registered in 1833.
I have looked but unable to find 1861 census for the family either.
So the spelling of the name appears to have changed at this point.
Having looked over and over I couldn't see it, so thank you so very much, you have a gift.
:-)

Sometimes it just needs a fresh pair of eyes! :-)

This birth registry of Mary appears to fit the best given the surname spelling.
3) Mary Calvely, Born Quarter 4, 1854, Wirral
I will look into that a little more, Thanks again.

Using http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CALVELY Joseph HASSALL Elizabeth Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/28/147

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
CALVELEY Joseph 30 Tranmere Wirral TRA/2/36

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TAYLOR * Henry CALVELEY Elizabeth Toxteth Park, St. James Liverpool 2105TP/7/264
TAYLOR * Henry HASSELL Elizabeth Toxteth Park, St. James Liverpool 2105TP/7/264

1881 England Census
Civil Parish: Tranmere
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 18 Walker St
Registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 3586 Folio: 59 Page Number: 2

Henry Taylor 43 Cockshot, Shropshire, England Head M Joiner
Elizabeth Taylor 46 Tilstock, Shropshire, England Wife M
Robert Calveley 19 Tranmere, Cheshire, England Step Son Shoemaker
Joseph Calveley 17 Tranmere, Cheshire, England Step Son Gen Lab
Samuel Taylor 14 Tranmere, Cheshire, England Son Office Boy
Elizabeth B. Taylor 10 Tranmere, Cheshire, England Daughter

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRN-YMG
Event Date 1841
Event Place Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Residence Note Tilstock
HOUSEHOLD GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE
Joseph Hassall M 35-39 Shropshire
Abigail Hassall F 40-44 Shropshire
Jane Hassall F 10 Shropshire
Elizabeth Hassall F 8 Shropshire
John Hassall M 6 Shropshire
Sarah Hassall F 5 Shropshire
Thomas Hassall M 2 Shropshire


1851 Class: ho107; Piece: 1995; Folio: 300; Page: 13;
Joseph Hassall Abagail abt 1804 location relation city, Shropshire
Abagail Hassall Joseph abt 1800 location relation city, Shropshire
Sarah Hassall Joseph,Abagail abt 1837 location relation city, Shropshire
Thomas Hassall Joseph,Abagail abt 1841 location relation city, Shropshire
Samuel Hassall Joseph,Abagail abt 1843 location relation city, Shropshire
Abagail Hassall Joseph,Abagail abt 1845 location relation city, Shropshire
Anne Hassall Joseph,Abagail abt 1847 location relation city, Shropshire
Mary Dulston abt 1849 location relation city, Shropshire

I don't know if this is relevant:
Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1841
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DULSTONE Joseph MILLINGTON Ellen Prees, North Shropshire Shrewsbury C-NS24/1/94


Births Mar 1839 (>99%)
Taylor Henry Ellesmere 18 61

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77R-6NY
Event Date 1841
Event Place Overton, Flintshire, Wales
Residence Note Wrexham Road
Registration District Ellesmere
Samuel Taylor M 45-49
Priscilla Taylor F 45-49
Mary Taylor F 15-19
Elizabeth Taylor F 11
Benjamin Taylor M 9
Charles Taylor M 6
Henry Taylor M 2


Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1854q4 CALVELY Mary Birkenhead Wirral BIR/27/33
1861q4 CALVELY Robert Tranmere Wirral TRA/1/37
1863q4 CALVELEY Joseph Tranmere Wirral TRA/3/61

Births Dec 1854 (>99%)
Calvely Mary Wirral 8a 371

Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
CALVELY Robert Birkenhead 8a 407

Births Dec 1863 (>99%)
CALVELEY Joseph Birkenhead 8a 446

Wow. Thank you so much (mgnv).
You've given me much to go off and confirmed a number of things there not least removed any uncertainty over the birth date of Mary Calvely to 1854. Census can really be far from accurate sometimes.
I hadn't managed to make the next step up the ladder for the early years of Elizabeth Hassall and family so many thanks with that.
Couldn't thank you enough.

:-)

Unknown - it was really MC's m.cert that was so helpful - witnesses are often sibs or sibs-in-law - I wonder if Sarah Dickinson is Eliz's sis. I would have liked to have seen Eliz's 1st m.cert for her father-i-l's name to trace back Jos. Unfortunately, Ancestry's marr images for Liverpool St Peter have a 63y gap from 1844 on, but the info is available at:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 12 Feb 1854 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
Joseph Calvely - full, Joiner, Bachelor, Adlington St
Elizabeth Hassall - full, Spinster, Adlington St
Groom's Father: Robert Calvely, Shoemaker
Bride's Father: Joseph Hassall, Plasterer
Witness: Thomas Hincksman; Mary Hincksman
Married by Banns by: W. R. Duncan Curate
Register: Marriages 1853 - 1854, Page 74, Entry 147
Source: LDS Film 1656678
NB his grandson Robt also becomes a shoemaker

As you can see from my 1st post, I don't have a sub to a site with English/Welsh census images - it would be nice to check occup's and pob's, and if the 1851 niece on FS is the Mary Dulston with the Hassell's.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7MB-G5C
Event Date 1841
Event Place Bromborough, Cheshire, England
Residence Note Part Of House
Page Number 13
Registration Number HO107 Piece 123 Book Number 5 Folio 9 Page Number 13
[Wm is on ho107/123/5/10/14]
Robert Caveley M 36-40 Cheshire
Mary Caveley F 35-39 Cheshire
Mary Caveley F 11 Cheshire
------- page break ------------
Ann Caveley F 9 Cheshire
Joseph Caveley M 8 Cheshire
Jane Caveley F 6 Cheshire
James Caveley M 2 Cheshire
John Caveley M 2 Cheshire
Robert Caveley M 1 months Cheshire
Mary Yates F 39-43 Cheshire
William Worral M 60-64 Cheshire
William Worral M 29-33 Cheshire
Alice Ward F 23-27 Cheshire
John Millington M 20-24
Sarah Prescot F 19-23
John Caveley M 28-32 Cheshire
Mary Caveley F 20-24 Cheshire
John Davies M 25-29
William Hardcastle M 20-24 Cheshire
William Caveley M 3 months Cheshire

This lloks like Wm - presumably our Joseph's cousin
Births Mar 1841 (>99%)
CALVELEY William Wirral 19 334

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 to 1845
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
CAVELEY William Woodchurch Wirral WOO/3/30

But Robt's page hasn't been transcribed yet by ChesBMD

Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Calveley Robert Wirral 19 338

Getting Robt's b.cert might be the only way to find Jos's mum's maiden surname.
I would presume your Mary's named after her gran.