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I'm trying to find some information on John Feeney. He married Beatrice Bomyer in 1886. He's on the 1901 Census but not the 1911 Census so I'm pretty sure it's him that died in Plymouth in 1907. He lived with Beatrice in Devon but it says he was born in Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire. I looked on family search for his marriage and it's a bit sketchy and there's a few John Feeney's born in Manchester so I'm not sure how to work out which one he is. From the census it seems he was born about 1856 but there's a few of the same name around that time.

1901 for reference - Born Manchester, nothing else on original, it doesn't say b Hulme. It does say he is a Naval Pensioner

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
98, Pembroke Street, Devonport, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Feeney Head Married Male 45 1856 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Beatrice Feeney Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Plymouth, Devon, England
John T Feeney Son - Male 14 1887 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Beatrice F Feeney Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Archibald Feeney Son - Male 7 1894 - Devon, England
Gladys Feeney Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Devonport, Devon, England
Owen Feeney Son - Male 4 1897 - Devonport, Devon, England
Claud M Feeney Son - Male 1 1900 - Devonport, Devon, England

Have you bought a copy of his marriage cert, in case it says who his father was?

Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%)
Bomyer Beatrice Elena Plymouth 5b 429
FEENEY John Plymouth 5b 429

As the family were living in Plymouth in both 1901 and 1911, it seems reasonable to assume that John died in Plymouth.

Have you bought the death cert to check?

1891 - wife is Beatrice E, possible that John is at sea?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clifton Street, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Beatrice E Feeney Head Married Female 25 1866 - Plymouth, Devon, England
John T A Feeney Son - Male 4 1887 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Beatrice F Feeney Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Plymouth, Devon, England

The youngest child was born 4th qr 1906, so John couldn't have died before early 1906.
Therefore the 1907 death you mention seems likely.


Audrey Feeney
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Audrey Feeney
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Devonport, Devon
Civil Parish: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 98 Pembroke St, Devonport
Registration district: Devonport
Registration District Number: 278
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 142
Piece: 13024
Household Members:
Name Age
Beatrice Feeney 44 - widowed
Gladys Feeney 16
Owen Feeney 15
Claude Feeney 10
Idina Feeney 8
Cunliffe Feeney 6
Audrey Feeney 4



Gwendoline Audrey Feeney
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Gwendoline Audrey Feeney
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Devonport
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 276

Local record has her name transcribed as Bornyer

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name FEENEY
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1886
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN FEENEY married one of these people
BEATRICE ELENA BOMYER, ALICE BOWDEN
District PLYMOUTH
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 429
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Devon Marriages Transcription
First name(s) John
Last name Feeney
Marriage year 1886
Marriage date 18 Jul 1886
Parish Charles
Place Plymouth, Charles the Martyr
Spouse's first name(s) Beatrice Elena
Spouse's last name Bornyer
Denomination Anglican
City or town Plymouth
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust

1881 - Beatrice with her family in 1881. Same address as 1891, when parents are also at that address

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Clifton Street, Plymouth Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph B Bomyer Head Married Male 58 1823 Blacksmith Plymouth, Devon, England
Fanny Bomyer Wife Married Female 52 1829 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Joseph F Bomyer Son Single Male 22 1859 Blacksmith Plymouth, Devon, England
Alfred Bomyer Son Single Male 19 1862 Sailmaker Plymouth, Devon, England
Thomas J Bomyer Son Single Male 17 1864 (No Oc) Plymouth, Devon, England
Beatrice L Bomyer Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Minnie Bomyer Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Chas C J Bomyer Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England

Possibly John in 1881?

John Feeney
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Feeney
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Alverstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: "Royal Marine Barracks" Forton
Occupation: Private R M L I
Registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Marine Barracks <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1166
Folio: 128
Page Number: 17

A possibility for John in 1881? He could well have already been in the RN/RM by 1871

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) John
Last name Feeney
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Gender Male
Age 25
Birth year 1856
Occupation Private R M L I
Birth town Salford
Birth town as transcribed SALFORD
Birth county Lancashire
Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE
Birth place England
House name Royal Marine Barracks
Street Forton
Town -
Parish Alverstoke
County Hampshire
Country England
Registration district Alverstoke

Snap ArgyllGran !!

If we assume that the year of birth given in both 1881 and 1901 is correct, then this should be his birth:

Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
FEENEY John Manchester 8d 258


Sarah, you say,". . . .there's a few John Feeney's born in Manchester . . ."

In fact, there's only one other John Feeney born actually in Manchester reg district 1854-58:
Births Dec 1854 (>99%)
Feeney John Manchester 8d 146


None in Salford in the same period.
And none in Chorlton, which includes Hulme .

Just a guess - it brings in the Chorlton aspect:

John Feeny
in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Feeny
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ann Feeny
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Chorlton on Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 3992
Folio: 43
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Feeny 45 - widow, born Ireland
Catherine Feeny 18
John Feeny 14

this is beatrice's birth

Births Dec 1865 (>99%)
Bomyer Beatrice Helena Plymouth 5b 265

The same Feeney family in 1861??? (ie - same as 1871 posted above).

Parents and Margaret born Ireland; all other children born Chorlton.

Address : 7 Taylor Street

Ann Feeny
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Ann Feeny
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Bernard Feeny
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Chorlton upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 2877
Folio: 98
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Bernard Feeny 60
Ann Feeny 40
Margaret Feeny 16
Michael Feeny 14
Catharine Feeny 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ann Feeny 9
John Feeny 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jane Small 25 - lodger


Bernard's death, probably, though age doesn't agree with census:

Deaths Dec 1867 (>99%)
Feeney Bernard 60 Chorlton 8c 449

Maybe the family again in 1851 ??

Michael Feeny
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Michael Feeny
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's name: Barny Feeny
Mother's name: Ann Feeny
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral And Collegiate Church
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 2227
Folio: 944
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Barny Feeny 44 - Ireland
Ann Feeny 28 - Ireland
Patrick Feeny 16 - son, Ireland
Michael Feeny 6 - son, Manchester
Margaret Feeny 6 - daughter, Manchester
Catharine Feeny 20 - visitor, Ireland
Mary Feeny 18 - visitor, Ireland
George Stewart 65 - visitor
Ann Dow 24 - visitor
Rhoda Horan 19 - visitor

I'm trying to find where I got Hulme from, I was sure I saw it somewhere but I could be wrong. I have no certs for him so far as when I looked it up there were three choices for his wife even though I know it's Beatrice. It says she was a widow in 1911 which is why I presume he's dead rather than at sea but it makes sense that he could have been at sea earlier as Devonport is where the ships are. I didn't seem to see anywhere that he was a naval pensioner. Thanks for working out which one in Manchester was probably him. Great research everyone. I missed the naval part and what could be his mother. Thanks

Here's the banns for their marriage:

Canterbury Marriage Banns Transcription

First name(s) Beatrice Elena
Last name Bomyer
Banns year -
Banns date -
Place Walmer, St Mary
Marriage year 1886
Marriage date 22 Jun 1886
Spouse's first name(s) John
Spouse's last name Feeney
Groom's parish Walmer
Bride's parish Plymouth
County Kent
Country England
Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives
Archive reference U3/60/1/15

John was of that parish and Beatrice Elena was of Plymouth. Neither previously married. No occupations or family info on the banns.

Image for Beatrice's baptism:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/24246969

Here's the 1886 marriage record, shows his father as John Feeney, a blacksmith:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/24246996

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The marriage record says he's a sergeant in the A M, possibility that this is his record on National Archives, costs £3.30 to download:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7751384

Reference: ADM 159/21/766
Description:
Name Feeney, John
Register Number: 766
Division: Royal Marine Artillery
When Enlisted/Date of Enlistment: 13 July 1878
Date of Birth: 13 May 1856

ADDED: Hmm, not too sure, looking at the possible birthplace on the free (distorted) preview images it could be Sligo.