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Please can someone see if they can find Tom John for me on the 1901 and 1911 census.

He was born in 1874 in Roxby, lincs. His Dad was James Gray b1840 and his mum was Ann Gray nee Pickersgill.

Tom John also went by John Tom. He married Mary Matthews in 1893 in Crowle Lincs.

Thanks for helping me

Jane

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
50, Roxby cum Risby, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Gray Head Married Male 41 1840 Ag Lab (Foreman) Hatfield Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England
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Ann E Gray Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Bonby, Lincolnshire, England
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Emily Gray Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Roxby, Lincolnshire, England
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Tom Gray Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Roxby, Lincolnshire, England
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Arthur Gray Son Single Male 2 1879 - Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
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Elizabeth R Dent Visitor Single Female 13 1868 - South Ferriby, Lincolnshire, England
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Edwin Crowston Boarder Single Male 19 1862 Farm Servant Roxby, Lincolnshire, England
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Arthur Burton Boarder Single Male 16 1865 Farm Servant Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
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Dea x

Thanks Dea

that's my family.

Jane

1901??


Name:John T Gray
Age:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1876
Relation to HeadHead
Gender:Male
Spouse:Mary A Gray
Birth Place:Gedney, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish:
Peterborough Within St John the Baptist
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Ecclesiastical parish:Peterborough St Mark
Town:Peterborough
County/Island:Northamptonshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district:Peterborough
Sub-registration district:Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel:42
Neighbors:
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Piece:1464
Folio:82
Page Number:4
Household schedule number:29
Household Members:
Name
Age

John T Gray 25 Bricklayer
Mary A Gray 23
Reginald T Gray 5/12

Andy

Can't find them on FMP but this is from Ancestry:

Arthur W Grey

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Name: Arthur W Grey
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Grey
Mother's name: Anne E Grey
Gender: Male
Where born: Winterton, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Belton
Ecclesiastical parish: Belton
Town: Belton
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Thorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
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Piece: 3868
Folio: 72
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
James Grey 50 farm baliff
Anne E Grey 50
John F Grey 16 ***** John T ?
Arthur W Grey 12
Thomas Grey 78 father - widower
William Wright 19
George Oxtoby 17
John Gleadle 15
Emma Briggs 13

Dea x

1911


Name:John Tom Gray
Age in 1911:35
Estimated birth year:abt 1876
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Gedney, Lincolnshire, England
Civil ParishScunthorpe
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County/Island:Lincolnshire
Country:England
Street address:9 Gurnell Street Scunthorpe Lincs
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Bricklayer
Registration district:Glanford Brigg
Registration District Number:424
Sub-registration district:Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel:16
Piece:20083
Household Members:
Name
Age


John Tom Gray 35
Mary Ann Gray 31
Reginald Tom Gray 10
Iris Winifred Gray 3
Evelyn Emme Gray 2

Andy

Thanks Andy

That could possibly be them.

I will make a copy of this and add it to my notes to check out later.
All the best

Jane

Dea

Yes I think that 1891 census you found is my family. The family that Andy found could be mine as well. I will have to checkout where Gedney is in Lincolnshire to make sure it is in the right area.

Thank you for helping me.

Jane x

1911 says married 12 years. This Mary would be to young to marry in 1893

Andy

Are well that rules that family out then. Thanks for looking Andy

Jane.

I wonder if they went abroad?

Thanks PricklyHolly for your help. Unfortunately Andy has just ruled that family out.

all the best

Jane.

Right Lets try something else. the marriage info I have is this

County Lincolnshire
Place Crowle
Church name St Oswald
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 328
Marriage date 18 Sep 1893
Groom forename Tom
Groom surname GRAY
Groom age 21
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Crowle
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname MATTHEWS
Bride age 24
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Crowle
Bride occupation Domestic servant
Groom father forename James
Groom father surname GRAY
Groom father occupation Farm bailiff
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname MATTHEWS
Bride father occupation Flax worker
Witness1 forename William
Witness1 surname MATTHEWS
Witness2 forename Ruth Ann
Witness2 surname MATTHEWS

So perhaps if we try and find her before the marriage perhaps that may help.

Thanks everyone for helping me. this is turning out to be quite a problem.

All the best

Jane

1881

Name William Matthews
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Crowle, Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding, England
Registration District Thorne
Gender Male
Age 41
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Flax Dresser
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1840
Birthplace West Buckland, Somerset, England
Page Number 24
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 4699/49
Affiliate Record Type Household

William Matthews Head M 41 West Buckland, Somerset, England
Ruth Matthews Wife F 34 Axminster, Devon, England
Jane Matthews Daughter F 11 Staplegrove, Somerset, England
Mary Matthews Daughter F 11 Staplegrove, Somerset, England
Ruth A Matthews Daughter F 9 Whitgift, Yorkshire, England
Harriett L Matthews Daughter F 4 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England
Louisa Matthews Daughter F 2 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England
Arthur W R Matthews Son M 4 M Crowle, Lincolnshire, England
Robert Slee Father In Law M 84 Devon, England

So mary comes from Somerset. So could they have moved to Somerset.??

Jane

1891
Name William Matthews
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Parish Crowle
Ecclesiastical Parish CROWLE
Registration District Thorne
Residence Note Newbigg
Gender Male
Age 51
Marital Status Married
Occupation Flare Scutcher
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1840
Birthplace Somersetshire, England
Page Number 6
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3870/ 34

William Matthews Head M 51 Somersetshire, England
Ruth Matthews Wife F 44 Devonshire, England
Mary Matthews Daughter F 21 Somersetshire, England
Louisa Matthews Daughter F 12 Lincolnshire, England
Arthur W R Matthews Son M 10 Lincolnshire, England
Alice Matthews Daughter F 7 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England
Wilfred Kemp Lodger M 59 Yorkshire, England
John E Kemp Lodger M 17 Yorkshire, England