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Yes, I know some people will say "you have already asked this question at least FOUR times already" but susanah Ball is bugging the heck out of me :-(

I know for a fact that she died in 1889, she had her granddaughter Ellen living with her in 1871 and in 1841 was living with her husband, in 1851 there is a Susan Balle that could be her.

As far as I can tell she has always lived on Exe Street in Exeter, Devon, (England :-D)

So in 1861 & 1881 - she is where???

Where is she?? AARRGGHH - Genes Reunited
www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1301924
11 Jun 2012 - 5 posts - ?3 authors
RockyMountainShy ... about Susanna Ball Name: Susanna Ball ...

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(above looks to have been deleted, adding below)

Chris :)

1871 (Find My Past) (Reference)
Susan Ball Head - Female 59 1812 (Charwoman) - Devon, England
Ellen Ball Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Devon, England
Street Exe Lane 6 Grants Buildings
Parish St David
City Exeter
County Devon
Registration district Exeter
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2065
Folio 84
Page 19


Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
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BALL Susannah 83 Exeter 5b 65

(Postem added. 23/03/2010 2 May 1889
Widow of Joseph Ball)


Was Exe Street the address on Death?...


Devon Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Susanna
Last name Ball
Death year 1889
Burial year 1889
Burial date 08 May 1889
Denomination Anglican
Burial place Exeter, St David
County Devon


1881 Census: Residents of Exeter Union Workhouse
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Exeter/Exeter1881.shtml

(not seeing above, for a check!)

When did Joseph die?...

Chris :)

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1861 (Find My Past)
S B Prisoner Married Female 45 1816 Charwoman Exeter, Devon, England
City Prison, Northernhay Street, St David, Exeter, Devon
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 1397
Folio number 36
Page number 40


http://tinyurl.com/gw45zcu

(Devon County Prison records held at Devon Heritage Centre)

Chris I think it might have been 1848

I have found Ellen in 1881 with her parents John 1833/1835 and Sarah but not found him in 1851 yet

Jude

(aah!, thanks Jude, so above might be a possible!)

Chris :)

Devon Social & Institutional records Transcription

First name(s) Susannah
Last name Ball
Year 1889
Date 02 May 1889
Place Exeter
Description date of death 02/05/1889 where died 24 EXE STREET name SUSANNAH BALL sex FEMALE age 83 occupation/relationship WIDOW OF A BUTCHER cause SENILE DECAY, DEMENTIA
Dataset Return of Deaths - Western District, Exeter 1887-1889
Record type Returns of deaths
County Devon
Country England
Archive Devon Heritage Centre

I've now found John in 1861 but no Susannah

Jude

http://www.devon.gov.uk/record_office.htm

(probably worth contacting above, with details of that info. above from AustinQ, below Reference)

Devon Heritage Centre reference ECA

Chris :)

(perhaps was in below)

By 1889, the workhouse buildings included a large hospital, schools, workshops, lunatic wards and receiving wards. It could accommodate up to 500 inmates although only housed 320 at that date.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Exeter/

Here's that 1851 census mentioned in OP

First name(s) Susan
Last name Balle
Relationship Head
Marital status Widow
Gender Female
Age 48
Birth year 1803
Occupation Charwoman
Birth place England
Birth town Exeter
Birth town as transcribed Exeter
Birth county Devon
House name Leading To The Folly House
Street Exe Street
Town -
Parish St David
City Exeter
County Devon
Hamlet -
Parliamentary borough -
Municipal ward -
Registration district Exeter
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1869
Folio 56
Page 33
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census

Not sure it's her.. who is Thomas and where was he in 1841? And John is wrong age

Jude

Devon Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) John William
Last name Ball
Birth year 1833
Birth date 25 Dec 1833
Baptism year 1833
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Exeter, St David
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's occupation Butcher
Mother's first name(s) Susanna
Residence Exe Lane
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
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Devon Marriages Transcription
First name(s) John William
Last name Ball
Age 24
Birth year 1834
Marriage year 1858
Marriage date 05 Jun 1858
Place Exeter, St David
Residence St David's Hill
Father's first name Joseph
Father's last name Ball
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Mary
Spouse's last name Woodland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse age 20
Spouse's residence St David's Hill
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Woodland
County Devon
Denomination Anglican
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Devon Burials Transcription
First name(s) John William
Last name Ball
Age 52
Birth year 1834
Death year 1886
Burial year 1886
Burial date 20 Aug 1886
Denomination Anglican
Burial place Exeter, St David
County Devon
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The Woodland family were at 24 Exe Street in 1881 (but no Susannah with them)- but it looks likely that Susannah was with her son's wife's family when she died.

Another child?

England Births and Christenings
Name William Robert Ball
Gender Male
Christening Date 27 Apr 1836
Christening Place SAINT DAVID,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND
Father's Name Joseph Ball
Mother's Name Susannah

EDIT: probable death-

Devon Burials Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Ball
Abode: Exe Lane
Age 1 Year 4 Months
Birth year 1835
Death year 1836
Burial year 1836
Burial date 30 Sep 1836
Denomination Anglican
Burial place Exeter, St David
County Devon
Country England
Devon Burials Transcription

Presumably William Robert died as he is not on 1841 census?

jude

(below relate to son John)

Chris :)


THE SUPPOSED SUICIDE IN THE MILL-LEAT.

“... held yesterday at tho Paper-makers' Anns Inn, Exe-lane, before Mr. 11. W. Hooper, City Coroner, touching the death of John William Ball, a plasterer, 52 years of age, formerly residing No. 15, Dinham-road, whose body was taken from the uiill-leat Saturday ...”

24 August 1886 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England


LOCAL AND DISTRICT NEWS.

“... many admirers in Cardiff. —" Pendrag»n " in the Western Mail. Druids' Funeral.—The mortal remains of the late i Bro. John William Ball, "Star of the West" Lodge, Ancient Order of Druids (No. were interred yester! day afternoon in St. David's Churchyard ...”

26 August 1886 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England

There is a lot of good guesses there. (I AM getting better at giving you all info. but I still need practice)

Joseph Ball ( her husband) died in 1848 (death certificate) of consumption and he was a butcher :-)
tHEY HAD 3 CHILDREN John 1831 - 1832 (church records)
My great great great grandfather John William 1833 - 1886 buried the day before he died(which is kind of funny) and yes he was in the mill leat. (pushed, slipped, jumped????)
and William Robert 1836 - ? (church records) Never have figured out what happened to him.

her daughter-in-law sarah was the witness at her death :-) Another good guess. (Boy you guys are good) Ok she died on Exe Street but Sarah lived in Dinham Road. So either she lived by herself or ???

Susannah & Joseph had 9 grandchildren, so I guess she would be anywhere.

I'll get my cousin to contact the Heritage centre. She needs something to do, I'm sure.

The 1851 census I'm not sure about either but it seems to be the only surname that is close, but maybe I'm being blind again.