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William Willoughby (music professor) b 1865 in Plymouth married Lucy Harrietta Edgland Manning in Sept 1892 in Plymouth , she was born in Dec 1870 Plymouth. William died Sept 1906 aged only 41. I am looking for all of their children if possible. I know of one definitely - Hubert Victor Willoughby b 2 Nov 1897. I do not have a subscription to other sites, so finding it difficult. Any help in finding their children would be great, possibly their forbears as well? I think there is a connection with Willoughby ironfounders of Plymouth, but yet to find it. Many thanks Chris

According to the 1911 census Lucy had 6 children, all still living but only 5 show up on the census.

They are:
Alice Marian, 17
Haydn, 16
John Edgland, 12
William, 11
Sydney Herbert, 7

Herbert Victor is a pupil here in 1911:

Herbert Victor Willoughby

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Herbert Victor Willoughby
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Pupil
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Bushey
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County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address: Royal Masonie School, The Avenue, Bushey
Occupation: Matron
Registration district: Watford
Registration District Number: 140
Sub-registration district: Bushey
ED, institution, or vessel: 12-14
Piece: 7698

This is the 1901 census with the family

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Willoughby Head Married Male 36 1865 Music Professor Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Lucy H E Willoughby Wife Married Female 30 1871 Singing Professor Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Hubert V Willoughby Son Single Male 3 1898 - Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
John E Willoughby Son Single Male 2 1899 - Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
William Willoughby Son Single Male 1 1900 - Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Deliah Maher Servant Single Female 35 1866 General Servant Domestic Ireland Transcription
Stella A Jeffery Servant Single Female 20 1881 Nurse Domestic Cornwall, England Transcription

1911 censusFirst name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Lucy Harrietta Edgland Willoughby Head Widow Female Private Means 40 1871 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Alice Marian Willoughby Daughter Single Female Student Part Time 17 1894 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Haydu Willoughby Son Single Male Student 16 1895 Plymouth Devon Transcription
John Edgland Willoughby Son - Male School 12 1899 Plymouth Devon Transcription
William Willoughby Son - Male School 11 1900 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Sydney Herbert Willoughby Son - Male School 7 1904 Plymouth Devon Transcription
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Lucy Harrietta Edgland Willoughby Head Widow Female Private Means 40 1871 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Alice Marian Willoughby Daughter Single Female Student Part Time 17 1894 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Haydu Willoughby Son Single Male Student 16 1895 Plymouth Devon Transcription
John Edgland Willoughby Son - Male School 12 1899 Plymouth Devon Transcription
William Willoughby Son - Male School 11 1900 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Sydney Herbert Willoughby Son - Male School 7 1904 Plymouth Devon Transcription
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Lucy Harrietta Edgland Willoughby Head Widow Female Private Means 40 1871 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Alice Marian Willoughby Daughter Single Female Student Part Time 17 1894 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Haydu Willoughby Son Single Male Student 16 1895 Plymouth Devon Transcription
John Edgland Willoughby Son - Male School 12 1899 Plymouth Devon Transcription
William Willoughby Son - Male School 11 1900 Plymouth Devon Transcription
Sydney Herbert Willoughby Son - Male School 7 1904 Plymouth Devon Transcription

This could be him, he's a professor of music:

W Willoughby

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: W Willoughby
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Willoughby
Mother's name: Alice M J Willoughby
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1733
Folio: 28
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
William Willoughby 61, living on own means
Alice M J Willoughby 46
W Willoughby 26, son, single, professor of music
Herbert Willoughby 24, son, married, private secretary
Maud M W Willoughby 22, daughter-in-law
Gertrude Willoughby 6/12, grandaughter
Bessie R Martin 15, servant

Sorry about my post No idea why it did that.

This looks like the same family in 1871 but with a different mother:

William Willoughby

in the 1871 England Census
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Name: William Willoughby
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Willoughby
Mother's name: Bessie Willoughby
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 2117
Folio: 124
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Willoughby 42
Bessie Willoughby 32
Frederick W Willoughby 8
William Willoughby 6
Herbert Willoughby 4
Gerturde E Willoughby 2
Caroline Burnet 23

The family in 1881 still with mother Betsy:


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Name: William Willoughby
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Willoughby
Mother: Betsy Willoughby
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 17 Ilbert St

Occupation: Reporter
Registration district: Plymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2196
Folio: 86
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Willoughby 50
Betsy Willoughby 42
Frederick W. Willoughby 18
William Willoughby 16
Herbert Willoughby 14
Gertrude E. Willoughby 12
Lavinia A. Hosking 23
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Death of Bessie:

Deaths Dec 1888 (>99%)
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Willoughby Bessie 50 Plymouth 5b 192

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That's wonderful Sylvia and Margaret, its very much appreciated. Is there anything about Lucy's origins at all?

Chris

I think this might be Lucy in 1891. Salome Edgland, born United States, is mother-in-law of Philip. Philip's wife Maria was also born United States. Philip is a naval pensioner.


Lucy Mannnig

in the 1891 England Census
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Name: Lucy Mannnig
[Lucy Manning]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Phillip Mannnig
Mother's name: Maria Mannnig
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Charles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1726
Folio: 59
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Mannnig 57
Maria Mannnig 51
Salome Mannnig 27
Edgar J Mannnig 23
Lucy Mannnig 20
Florence M Mannnig 14
Salome A Edgland 79
Ernest S Pascoe 19

Can't make out place of birth of Salome here, Husband John born Plymouth. They're living at the same address as the Philip Manning family. (I think the MBS means married to British Subject)


Salome A. Edgland

in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Salome A. Edgland
Age: 69
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: John Edgland
Gender: Female
Where born: Island M C MBS
Civil Parish: Plymouth Charles the Martyr
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 10 Mount St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Plymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2193
Folio: 27
Page Number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
John Edgland 78
Salome A. Edgland 69

Trees on Ancestry say that John Edgland , born 1803, Plymouth married Salome Ann Babcock, 24 June 1832 in New Haven, Connecticut, USA.

Saloma A Babcock

in the U.S., Newspaper Extractions from the Northeast, 1704-1930
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Name: Saloma A Babcock
Event: Marriage
Marriage Date: Abt 1832
Marriage Place: New Haven
Spouse: John Edgland
Newspaper: New Haven Columbian Register
Publication Date: 30 Jun 1832
Publication Place: Connecticut, USA
Call Number: 485927

Wow Margaret! That's brilliant. When you found Hubert V on the 1911 census at the Masonic School, I remembered long ago being told he had gone to the school. Thank you for your efforts

You're very welcome, Christine, that was fun!