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Karrie

Karrie Report 1 Feb 2016 20:52

Am trying to find wife and children of Charles Irwin dob between 1870 and 1883 parents Angelo Irwin and Caroline. He was born in Bethnal Green but midhurst is somewhere in the mix ... Help would be appreciated.

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:02

Are you sure father is Angelo?

Could this not be him?

Name: Charles William Irwin
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: 11 Apr 1883
Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1893
Father's name: John Irwin
Mother's name: Caroline Irwin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Feb 2016 21:04

??

His birth is Charles William

arriage

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Chinnery Laura E Irwin Midhurst 2b 1003
Irwin Charles W Chinnery Midhurst 2b 1003


Andy

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Feb 2016 21:06

How did you get back to Charles please?

Karrie

Karrie Report 1 Feb 2016 21:07

Father was Angelo John.
Only record of marriage to Laura Chinnery?
Any children please
Thank you

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Feb 2016 21:09

Could the father's name be Angelo John?


Angelo John Irwin

in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: Angelo John Irwin
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Age: 28
Spouse: Caroline Wheeler
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Oct 1874
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Angelo John Irwin
Spouse Father: Christopher Wheeler
Register Type: Parish Register

He was a cellarman, his father a bootmaker, her father a labourer.

Karrie

Karrie Report 1 Feb 2016 21:09

My grandfathers 'supposed' brother

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:11

A tree on ancestry has this for him


Marriage
1912 • Midhurst, Sussex
Marriages Sep 1912
Irwin Charles W Chinnery Midhurst 2b 1003 Scan available - click to view Stedham is in the Midhurst registration disctrict

Laura E Chinnery (1891–)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Feb 2016 21:11

A tree on Ancestry



Charles Irwin
Charles Irwin
1872–
BIRTH 1872 • Bethnal Green, London, England
DEATH unknown
1872 • Bethnal Green, London, England
1872
(AGE)
Birth of Brother Robert Irwin(1874–1967)
1874
1874
2
Birth of Sister Caroline Irwin(1881–1972)
1881 • Bethnal Green, London, England
1881
9
Birth of Sister Annie Irwin(1887–)
1887 • Bethnal Green, London, England
1887
15
Birth of Sister Ethel Irwin(1889–)
1889 • Bethnal Green, London, England
1889
17
Death of Brother Robert Irwin(1874–1967)
6 Feb 1967
1967
95
Death of Sister Caroline Irwin(1881–1972)
1972 • London, England
1972



Father Angelo, mother Caroline Wheeler

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Feb 2016 21:11

Children from Marriage

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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Irwin Charles A Chinnery Midhurst 2b 636 Scan available - click to view

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Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
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Irwin Ethel J Chinnery Midhurst 2b 643


Andy

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Feb 2016 21:13

Charles Irwin
Gender: m (Male)
Birth Date: Abt 1872
Birth Place: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Father: John Irwin
Mother: Caroline Wheeler
Spouse: Alice Query

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:15

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Irwin Charles A Chinnery Midhurst 2b 636

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Irwin Ethel J Chinnery Midhurst 2b 643

Karrie

Karrie Report 1 Feb 2016 21:16

Many thanks folks

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:20

The family in 1881?

John Irwin Head Married Male 33 1848 Labourer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Caroline Irwin Wife Married Female 32 1849 Box Maker (W B) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
James Darmore Step Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Robert Irwin Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary A Irwin Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Caroline Irwin Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:22

Same family but no sign of Charles ????

1891
John Irwin Head Married Male 45 1846 Dock Labourer St George in the East, Middlesex, England Transcription
Caroline Irwin Wife Married Female 44 1847 Charwoman Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Robert Irwin Son Single Male 17 1874 Toy Manufacturer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Caroline Irwin Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Annie Irwin Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Ethel Irwin Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:36

This looks to be Charles in 1901

Name: Chas Irwin
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil Parish: Reigate
Search Photos: Search for 'Reigate' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 628
Folio: 31
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Coole 50
Joseph Coole 16
David Coole 13
Chas Irwin 19

Karrie

Karrie Report 1 Feb 2016 21:37

Root gatherer you show spouse as Alice, where was this from please. Family member remembers aunt Alice but this doesn't tie with Laura Chinnery.
Also he's not on 1881 age 9 nor 1891 age 19 census with the family.

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 21:57

Father looks to have spent some time in and out of the workhouse:-

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
WILLS, PROBATES, LAND, TAX & CRIMINALView Image
NAME: Angelo John Irwin
BIRTH: 1845
RESIDENCE: 17 Jan 1908 - London, England

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
WILLS, PROBATES, LAND, TAX & CRIMINALView Image
NAME: Angelo John Irwin
BIRTH: abt 1845
RESIDENCE: 17 Jan 1908 - London, England
RESIDENCE: 9 Oct 1909 - London, England

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
WILLS, PROBATES, LAND, TAX & CRIMINALView Image
NAME: Angelo John Irwin
BIRTH: abt 1845
RESIDENCE: 17 Jan 1908 - London, England

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
WILLS, PROBATES, LAND, TAX & CRIMINALView Image
NAME: Angelo John Irwin
BIRTH: abt 1845
RESIDENCE: 29 Aug 1913 - London, England

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
WILLS, PROBATES, LAND, TAX & CRIMINALView Image
NAME: Angelo John Irwin
BIRTH: abt 1845
RESIDENCE: 29 Aug 1913 - London, England

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
WILLS, PROBATES, LAND, TAX & CRIMINALView Image
NAME: Angelo John Irwin
BIRTH: abt 1846
RESIDENCE: 29 Aug 1914 - London, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 22:02

1901
Census details
First name(s) Caroline
Last name Irwin
Relationship Servant
Marital status Married
Gender Female
Age 57
Birth year 1844
Occupation Laundress
Birth town Bethnal Green
Birth town as transcribed BETHNAL GREEN
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed LONDON
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Other household member first name(s) ANNIE, IRENE, EDITH, ALFRED, THOMAS, MAUD, LESLIE, JANE, MAURICE, EDMUND, GEORGE, TIMOTHY, CAROLINE, ETHEL
Other household member last name CAWKER, APPLEYARD, PILE, COOK, SEABROOKE, STRICKLAND, LEGG, SMITH, FRANCOMBE, CHERRY, MACCARTHY, IRWIN
Street Stedham
Town Stedham
Parish Stedham
City -
Country England
County Sussex
Municipal ward -
Registration district Midhurst
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 974
Folio 98
Page 8
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

.............with daughter Ethel

Ethel M Irwin Pupil - Female 13 1888 Laundress London, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Feb 2016 22:03

1911 Caroline states she is widowed, but her husband is in the workhouse still:-

First name(s) Caroline
Last name Irwin
Relationship Servant
Marital status Widow
Sex Female
Occupation Laundress
Age 67
Birth year 1844
Birth place London
Address Pigeon Hill Midhurst Sussex
Parish Woolbeding
County Sussex
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Midhurst
Registration district number 87
Enumeration district 13
District number -
Sub district Midhurst
Sub district number 1
Census reference RG14PN5427 RD87 SD1 ED13 SN42
Piece number 5427
Folio -
Page -
Other household member first name(s) CAROLINE
Other household member last name IRWIN
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

Married 36yrs
6 children all living.