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Ernest her brother was in ww1 decribed in his records as Nurse ! born Tottenham. NOK was Elizabeth his mother,Laura and Lily,---Sisters?

3 changes of address,
1.52 Coppermill Lane Walthamstow,-on first army papers,
2,54,Leaburge Road Clapton.---this is NOK address,
3,62 Belmont Park Road Leyton,,,,,,this also has been a former address>


Ernest
Last name Ranyell
Service number 18514
Regiment Royal Army Medical Corps
Unit / Battalion 19th Stafford Hospital
Event year 1916
Age 31
Birth year 1885
Birth town >>>>Tottenham<<<<
Birth county Middlesex
Birth country England
Residence town -
Residence county Essex
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

My mum visited the School of Oriental and African Studies and found a reference to her from a government body of some sort - a British agency in Bombay.

ummmm... ! My Mum - let me check and get back to you!

Hi Juliet, where did you get the info re 1915/ 1916

This is amazing! I am bowled over by your kindness and expertise. These are huge leaps forward in piecing together Nellie's story. It means so much. Thank-you!

1901 Living in Upper Street, Islington working as Draper's Assistant

1903 - Living at 62 Marylebone Lane. She gives birth to Harold in September of this year at Queen Charlotte's Hospital.

1906 - Nellie Ranyell b. 1882, Tottenham, Middlesex - is living in Lambeth at the house of Lavinia Groom (midwife) where she has Irene Lucie Lavinia Ranyell (my Nana).

1907 - Nellie trained as a midwife at the General Lying-in Hospital in either Lambeth or Marylebone. (Don't know where the children are.)

Then - she goes off the grid until 1911 when she returns from Bombay with Alice Reed (b. 1880, daughter of Joseph Hepworth, b. 1835, successful clothier) and her baby son, Eric. She is on the census at their house, Hazelwood, in Torquay.

(In the 1911 Census - her widowed mother, Eliza Eugenie Ranyell, 58, is head of household at 651 Lea Bridge Road, Leyton, Essex living with her son Ernest, 25, and daughter, Dorothy, 20.)

1913 - she returns from Bombay to Plymouth, May 23rd. Her son, Harold is at King Edward's Grammar in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk where she is listed as Parent. (By 1914, he is in Norfolk at the Boys Model School - a charity school with Mr. Helsdon as his parent/guardian).

December 14th, 1915 - January 12th, 1916 she is nurse to Begum of Manavadar and just disappears never to be heard from again.

This is the man that was named as parent/guardian on the school admission



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
104 Pottergate St Norwich, Norwich, Norfolk, England


Frederick Helsdon Head Married Male Printers Warehouseman 45 1866 Norfolk Norwich

Edith Helsdon Wife Married Female - 42 1869 Norfolk Norwich

Edward Helsdon Son Single Male Auctioneers Clerk 19 1892 Norfolk Norwich

Emily Lincoln Mother In Law Widow Female - 68 1843 Norfolk Norwich

Harry Hall Boarder - Male School 12 1899 Norfolk Honningham

Charles Howlett Boarder Single Male Engineer 27 1884 Norfolk E Dereham

Frederick Davey Boarder Single Male Engineer 22 1889 Norfolk Norwich

Frederick Adams Boarder Single Male Eyesight Specialist 23 1888 Stafford Walsall

First name(s) Nellie
Last name Ranyell
Relationship Servant
Marital status Single
Gender Female
Age 19
Birth year 1882
Occupation Draper's Assistant
Birth town Tottenham
Birth town as transcribed TOTTENHAM
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place England.

? 1901.

I'm now not sure

1939 electoral register has a Donald William Gibbon living with Irene Mary Theresa Gibbon at 14 Southlands Road, Birmingham

1939 register

Found Donald W Gibbon at Adelaide House London Bridge an ARP warden housed with other ARP wardens, states married and a partner in an insurance firm. There are too many Irenes to find her, BUT he was born 1911 so 23/24 on marriage above.

My fault ........I edited.

Donald William Gibbon in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Donald William Gibbon
Probate Date: 15 May 1946
Registry: Birmingham, England
Death Date: 25 Mar 1941
Death Place: Birmingham, England

Of 56 Middleton Hall-road, Kings Norton, Birmingham died on or since 25 March 1941 on war service.

To Irene Gibbon widow.......Effects: £1628 4s 6d

Sorry PH- didn't see that :-)

It's really frustrating- trying to look for Irene/ Nellies returning from India. There are loads!

Haven't followed this one through yet- but maybe Nellie was taken for a nickname of Ellen or Helen?

Name: Helen Irene Smith
Birth Date: abt 1885
Age: 45
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1930
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Ranpura
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 148119

She appears to be travelling with S. Brabrant Smith 44, and Denham Smith 5

EDIT: SCRAP THIS ONE- a tree has the marriage in 1919- her name was Helen Irene Griffiths.

Yes I have just figured that out now.

:-)

Think they were too young PH:

CWGC
GIBBON, DONALD WILLIAM
Rank:Lieutenant
Date of Death: 25/03/1941
Age: 30
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Reserve H.M.S. Medway
Panel Reference: Panel 60, Column 1.
Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of William Duff Gibbon and Clara Elizabeth Gibbon, of Usk, Monmouthshire; husband of Irene Gibbon.

Did (Irene) Nellie marry Donald W Gibbon.........or was that posted as a possibility?

Ah, so it was the daughter who married Mr Gibbon?

Harold Royston
Last name Ranyell
Birth year 1903
Birth date 26 Sep 1903
Event year 1913
School name King Edward VI Grammar School, Bury St Edmunds
Town Bury St Edmunds
County Suffolk
Country England
Parent name(s) Mrs Ranyell
Book type Admissions
Archive reference GD502/32
Folio / page no. -
Archive Suffolk Record Office, Bury St Edmunds
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Schools & education
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Harold
Last name Ranyell
Birth year 1903
Birth date 26 Sep 1903
Event year 1914
School name Model Boys School
Town Norwich
County Norfolk
Country England
Parent name(s) Mr Helsdon (comes under the heading of parent or guardian )
Book type Admissions
Archive reference N_ED_8_19
Folio / page no. -
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from Great Britain
DC Thomson Family History

Says born Burt st Edmunds Last day at school 4.4.1917 left to go to work

Family seriously mistranscibed- from Ancestry:

1891:

Name: George Pangwell
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Pangwell
Gender: Male
Where born: Weeds, India
Civil Parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 1076 Folio: 74 Page Number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
George Pangwell 45
Eliza Pangwell 39
Louisa Pangwell 19
Laura Pangwell 15
Eliza Pangwell 14
Florence Pangwell 13
Ethel M Pangwell 12
Nellie Pangwell 9
Jessie Pangwell 5
Ernest Pangwell 5
Maud Pangwell 5/12
---------------------------------------------

1913:

Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Miss Ranywell (Nurse)
Birth Date: abt 1885
Age: 28
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 23 May 1913
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Egypt
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 105581

Thank-you so much all of you. How kind of you to take your time to help. Unfortunately, I've managed to track her as far as Bombay with the Begum of Manavadar until January 1916 and then she disappeared. Could she have died from the influenza epidemic? Or... married and reinvented herself? Juliet

In case you don't have this ....... it appears she returned with the Hepworths from India, though not listed with them

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Miss Ranyell
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 1 Apr 1911
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Egypt
Search Ship Database: Search for the Egypt in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 105581

from image:-

Nurse

Just for ref helpers

https://www.british-genealogy.com/archive/index.php/t-64207.html

Harold Royston Ranyell
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth: 1903
death: 1973 Epping, Essex, England
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Harold Royston Ranyell
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name Harold Royston Ranyell
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1973
Registration District Epping
County Essex
Event Place Epping, Essex, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969) 1903
Volume 4A
Page 2436
Line Number 66