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Edith Butler after 1911 (Not answered)

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jenVG

jenVG Report 13 Feb 2017 10:36

Any hint from family that she could have moved in with a chap and taken his name without marrying him (if he was already married).?
It looks as if you have left no stone unturned. What about Ireland?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Feb 2017 10:06

As it's Edith's birthday tomorrow, and as her name has come up elsewhere on the boards this week , I'm bumping this up just in case anyone fancies another trawl of the records, though I don't really expect anything else to come to light until the 1921 census is released.

Personally, I think she was probably in Scotland in 1939, in which case we won't find her then. I would need to know her date of death to be able to request a record from the Scottish 1939 register, but can't find that.

To recap,
She was born in Bodicote (aka Boddicott) Oxfordshire on 14/02/1886. No middle name.
Malyon posted the 1901 census above, also her birth record, but I have all the censuses for her, as well as all info re her parents, siblings, ancestors, etc.
In 1911 she was living in Bicester, Oxon, with her cousin Walter Allen and his family.

Her sister and brother, with their spouses and children, as well as a married aunt, were living in Edinburgh from the late 1890's onwards, so she may well have lived there too.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 19:19

As mentioned, she is not the Edith Butler who died in Chatham in 1948.

She is also not the Edith Butler who died in Kenilworth (Warwick) in 1924, nor the one who died East Glamorgan 1964.

All of those were married women.

I don't think she'll be the Witney one, Shirley, as I would have remembered hearing of her death if it was as late as 1973.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 19:10

Oops - I clicked answered before refreshing the page, so I didn't notice your post, Shirley.

Unfortunately all those who knew her personally are now deceased.
She was certainly in Edinburgh frequently in the 1920's and 30's, as her nieces (my mother and aunts) remembered her, and they would have been in their teens in the 30's.

But during my own teens, I don't remember hearing her talked of as still being around (although, equally, nobody ever actually said she was dead, as far as I can remember) .
So I'm assuming she died in the 1940's or 50's. Or maybe early 60's.

There's no sign of a marriage or death on ScotlandsPeople, and I haven't found any that checks out in England/Wales.

There are a lot of travel records for Edith Butlers, but none with enough detail to identify if she was one of them, and I'm not aware of anyone ever saying she had gone abroad.

There are no family photos of her, which might have helped with dates.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Mar 2016 18:36

Wrong birth date but right year
EDITH
Last name BUTLER
Gender Female
Birth day 22
Birth month 11
Birth year 1886
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1973
District WITNEY
County Oxfordshire
Volume 6B
Page 3411
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007


Any idea when she was last known of ?? Did she live on her own etc

Gee

Gee Report 27 Mar 2016 18:15

Can't fault the gal AG! :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 18:06

Thanks, Malyon - I have all that.

Please don't waste your time looking for any more.

malyon

malyon Report 27 Mar 2016 18:05

Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1886
Birthplace Oxfordshire, England
Page Number 11
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 1180/ 156
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

John Butler Head M 29 Pembrokeshire, England
Anne Butler Wife F 28 Oxfordshire, England
Edith Butler Daughter F 5 Oxfordshire, England
Frederick Butler Son M 3 Oxfordshire, England
Fanny Butler Daughter F 1 Oxfordshire, England
Ernest Lovell Stepson M 10 Oxfordshire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 18:02

Gee, thanks!
I'm pretty sure she never married - at least, there's never been any mention of that in family stories - but you never know.

She was quite a gal, was "naughty Auntie Edie", as her nieces and their parents called her. She dressed smartly, and enjoyed going to the races at Musselburgh with gentlemen!

Gee

Gee Report 27 Mar 2016 17:55

AG

I know, what a list but at least you have the full DOB to go with!

Good luck!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 17:53

Yes, malyon, that's her birth.

As I said, I know all about her up to and including the 1911 census.
(No, I didn't specifically say I had her birth record, but I do. That's how I know her DOB.)

Thanks for looking.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 17:50

What a list!

Many thanks, Gins - that'll keep me busy checking them all out.

malyon

malyon Report 27 Mar 2016 17:50

could this be edith




Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
BUTLER Edith Banbury 3a 918

Gee

Gee Report 27 Mar 2016 17:47

Probably no use what so ever but here are all the Edith' with that DOB


Edith A E Banks 1886 Leyton M.B. Essex

Edith A Brock 1886 Bristol C.B. Gloucestershire ?

Edith A Brown 1886 Ulverston R.D. Lancashire

Edith Cornelius 1886 Dawlish U.D. Devon

Edith Dalley 1886 Nottingham C.B. Nottinghamshire

Edith B Davis 1886 Wolverhampton C.B. Staffordshire

Edith Dobson 1886 Welton R.D. Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey)

Edith Foster 1886 Croydon C.B. Surrey

Edith E Fuller 1886 Great Yarmouth C.B. Norfolk

Edith M Griffey 1886 Bristol C.B. Gloucestershire

Edith M Gunner 1886 Cirencester U.D. Gloucestershire

Edith F Harris 1886 Lewes M.B. Sussex

Edith Heselton 1886 Pickering U.D. Yorkshire (North Riding)

Edith A Holmes 1886 Great Yarmouth C.B. Norfolk

Edith Jones 1886 South Shields C.B. Durham

Edith King 1886 Hornsey M.B. Middlesex

Edith E Kingham 1886 Greenwich London

Edith C Knowles 1886 Ilfracombe U.D. Devon

Edith Lain 1886 Wallsend M.B. Northumberland

Edith Latus 1886 Kingston-upon-Hull C.B. Yorkshire (East Riding

Edith Liversidge 1886 Tadcaster R.D. Yorkshire (West Riding)

Edith A Marshall 1886 Redcar M.B. Yorkshire (North Riding)

Edith E Martin 1886 Rotherham C.B. Yorkshire (West Riding)

Edith E Mason 1886 Kingston-upon-Hull C.B. Yorkshire (East Riding)

Edith Mitchell 1886 Wakefield C.B. Yorkshire (West Riding)

Edith M Pilkington 1886 Nottingham C.B. Nottinghamshire

Edith Mary Rance 1886 Acton M.B. Middlesex

Edith Rowe 1886 Lincoln C.B. Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey)

Edith Sandall 1886 Congleton M.B. Cheshire

Edith K Severn 1886 Shardlow R.D. Derbyshire

Edith E Smith 1886 Highworth R.D. Wiltshire

Edith M Smith 1886 Leyton M.B. Essex

Edith M Topper 1886 Rhondda U.D. Glamorganshire

Edith Whitehead 1886 Alfreton U.D. Derbyshire

Edith (Lizzie) Williams 1886 Torquay M.B. Devon

Edith B M Wise (Shaw) 1886 Lambeth London ?

Edith Jane Wright 1886 Leeds C.B. Yorkshire (West Riding)

Edith R Wyatt 1886 Marlborough and Ramsbury R.D. Wiltshire

Edith S Aldwin — Hendon M.B. Middlesex

Edith Hands — Bromley M.B. Kent

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 17:43

Oh, well - it was worth a try!

Many thanks for looking.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Mar 2016 17:41

None of the Edith's without middle names was born on that date.

The only one with a birthday on 14th February was born in 1887 and has the middle initial E. and is married. She is in Newtown Road Southhampton but probably not "your Edith".

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 27 Mar 2016 17:40

Hi AG

There is no one with that name and DOB on the 1939 register

Maybe you're right, she could have been in Scotland

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Mar 2016 17:29

I would be very grateful if someone with a sub to FMP could have a look at the 10 or so Edith Butlers (with no middle names) who were born in 1886 and who are on the 1939 register.

The one I'm looking for was born 14/02/1886, and had no middle name.
I don't think she ever married.

She's not the one in Chatham ( I know because I bought the Chatham one's death cert) but could be any of the others. Or she might be none of them, as it's possible she was in Scotland at the time.
She was born and brought up in Oxfordshire, but I know she frequently visited relatives in Edinburgh during the 1920's -30's - possibly even lived there - I don't know.

I have no idea when or where she died, despite much searching.
I have all the census records for her, and I know all about her parents, siblings, and ancestors, so please don't waste your time looking for any of that.

I'll be delighted if you can find her in 1939!