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RUPERT LYLE not answered .sorry, really need help

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Christine

Christine Report 20 May 2016 18:02

Rupert Lyle born in 1861, who married a Maud Hancock born in 1894, in the year 1919 in Lambeth London
I am really stuck, cannot find him anywhere, except his marriage.

on his marriage certificate it states that he was an Insurance Clerk, and resided at 220 Battersea Bridge Road, Battersea, London.
his father was Rupert William Lyle, deceased, of Independent means

we have Mauds father, Thomas James Hancock, a Taylor Crown Manufacturer, retired.
Maud did re marry in 1929, classed as widow, but cannot find her divorce from Rupert.
we are after tracing the Lyle family, but cannot find any records, other than him being at St Pancras workhouse

They had 2 sons, Rupert born in 1919, I am in contact with his daughter, and the other Charles, who was given to Barnardo's, is my husbands father, he was adopted and re named Geoffrey A Battrick

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 May 2016 18:15

just for reference


Name Rupert Lyle
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1919
Registration District Wandsworth
County London
Event Place Wandsworth, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Hancock
Volume 1D
Page 1815
Line Number 149

Rupert Lyle probably married one of the following people
Name Maud E Hancock

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 May 2016 18:15

welcome to the boards by the way :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 May 2016 18:27

wandsworth parish records - Family Tree Forum
www.familytreeforum.com/showthread.php/68085-wandsworth-parish-records Cached
There are some records on the IGI but main place is the London Metropolitan Archives and this link will take you to their search page. London Generations

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 May 2016 18:28

London Metropolitan Archives
c.mfcreative.com/offer/UK/.../MoreHelp/LMA-AtoZ-of-London-Parishes.pdf
London Metropolitan Archives Guide for Ancestry Users A to Z of London Parishes Introduction This guide is provided to support your London parish records research on ...

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 18:47

Christine -

You may have to buy a copy of his marriage cert, to find out his age and his father's name, which would give us a starting point to try to trace him.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 18:49

Without anything to go on, I'm just throwing this in as a possibility:

Rupert Cecil Lyle
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Rupert Cecil Lyle
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1898
Registration district: Belfast
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 445
FHL Film Number: 101067

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 18:56

There's no sign of an alternative birth in England, Wales, or Scotland.

Perhaps he was born in some country whose records aren't available to view online.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 19:05



Maud re-marrying ??

Maud E Lyle
in the England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Maud E Lyle
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: Surrey
Spouse: William Carlton
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 196




Maud E Carlton
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Maud E Carlton
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Sep 1954
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 198

Pam

Pam Report 20 May 2016 19:06

A possible death ?.


Deaths Dec 1938

LYLE Rupert 78 Pancras 1b 112

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 19:08

????

Probably too old to be Maud's husband, but you never know;

Rupert Lyle
in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
Name: Rupert Lyle
Birth Date: 1859
Admission Age: 63
Admission Date: 1922-1924
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Camden
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Place: London, England
Title: St Pancras Workhouse Admission and Discharge Register 1922-1924

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 May 2016 19:11

Do you know any details of Maud? (notes Maud E on Marriage)

Chris :)

edits (I see you have below, from 'Search All Member Trees')

Relation Name: Rupert Lyle
Date of Birth: 1893

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 19:15

I've also added Maud's death to that post, Chris, if she's the one who remarried Carlton.

Birth c1892.


????

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Hancock Maud Elizabeth Wolstanton 6b 135

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Hancock Maud Eleanor Hitchin 3a 523

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 May 2016 19:24

(below perhaps?)

Chris :)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

109 Angell Road , Lambeth, London, England
Maud Carlton 12 Feb 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
William Carlton 31 Jan 1871 Male Incapacitated Married

?

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
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Hancock Maud Ethel Lambeth 1d 424

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 May 2016 19:27

Or maybe this birth??

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Hancock Maud Ethel Lambeth 1d 424


[Snap, Chris!]

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 May 2016 19:37

Need more info. from Christine, details from Marriage Cert. if got...

Chris :)

safc

safc Report 20 May 2016 19:52

????

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription

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First name(s) RUPERT
Last name LYLE
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1870
Marital status S
Occupation GENTLEMAN
Departure year 1890
Departure day 23
Departure month 7
Departure port LONDON
Destination port DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Destination DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Country SOUTH AFRICA
Destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship name QUATHLAMBA
Ship master's first name E H
Ship master's last name EARLY
City LONDON
Ship destination port DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Ship destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship registered tonnage 467
Number of passengers 7
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

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Catherine

Catherine Report 20 May 2016 20:29

May not help, but there are 2 possible births for Lyle - Hancock:-

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Lyle Rupert A Hancock Lambeth 1d 752

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
LYLE Charles W Hancock Lambeth 1d 644

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 May 2016 20:31

Name: Rupert A Lyle
Birth Date: abt 1920
Date of Registration: Sep 1961
Age at Death: 41
Registration district: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 247


Name: Rupert Alexander Lyle
Probate Date: 17 Oct 1961
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 8 Aug 1961
Death Place: Essex, England

Probate to Florence Margaret Lyle, widow

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 May 2016 20:51

This looks to be the Rupert Lyle, who went to South Africa, coming back to England:-

First name(s) R
Last name LYLE
Title MR
Gender Male
Age 32
Birth year 1871
Marital status M
Occupation PAINTER
Departure year 1903
Departure day 11
Departure month 7
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Destination DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Country SOUTH AFRICA
Destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship name GAIKA
Ship official number 106908
Ship master's first name H
Ship master's last name STRONG
Shipping line DONALD CURRIE & COMPANY
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port SOUTH AFRICA
Ship destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship square feet 10.021
Ship registered tonnage 3975
Number of passengers 589
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States