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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Sep 2016 23:12

Just in case she was Eileen - but pointless guessing - get the marriage cert if you don't already have it:

Eileen Egan
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Eileen Egan
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 146 Hyde Rd West Gorton Manchester
Occupation: School
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Piece: 23756
Household Members:
Name Age
James Egan 38
Lucy Egan 33
James Egan 12
Lucy Egan 10
Margaret Egan 8
Norah Egan 6
Eileen Egan 5
Veronica Egan 3
Mary Egan 1
Elizabeth Carter 20

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Sep 2016 22:58

Tracey -
how have you come by the YOB of c1906?

Is that from her marriage cert?

Assuming you are correct re her YOB, and assuming she was born in Lancashire, then, going with Mike's suggestion that she may have been registered as Ellen rather than Helen , there are a couple of possible births. (But that's a lot of assuming.):

Births Mar 1906
Egan Ellen Barton I. 8c 681

Births Dec 1905 (>99%)
Egan Ellen Salford 8d 20



There's another possible one in Wales:
Births Sep 1906
Egan Ellen Bedwellty 11a 99

Or she might have been Eileen:

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
Egan Eileen Chorlton 8c 734

safc

safc Report 1 Sep 2016 22:43

????

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1958
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TOMLINSON Helen Patrica LIVESEY Arthur Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR/250/242

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2016 22:25

One of the children:-

First name(s) WALTER
Last name TOMLINSON
Birth year 1933
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
(Mother's last name EGAN)
District PADDINGTON
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 37
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Looks to have died very young:-

First name(s) WALTER
Last name TOMLINSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1933
Age 0
Death quarter 1
Death year 1933
District PADDINGTON
County London
Volume 1A
Page 44
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain


...............this would mean that there would have been only one other child older than Eric and there were two other children born after him and before the 1939 census, so 1939 may be correct ????

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2016 22:12

One of the possible children looks to have been Eric, born 1935 so I was wondering about this 1939

16 Eskrigge Street , Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England

Helen Livesey (Tomlinson) 12 Aug 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 134 1
RECORD CLOSED
Eric Tomlinson 21 Feb 1935 Male At School Single 134 3
RECORD CLOSED
RECORD CLOSED

There are also three others whose records are closed.

However, it looks as though Helen's maiden name would have been Livesey, so may be another family?

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Sep 2016 21:57

I would start by buying the marriage certificate. This will give you a better idea of her age so you can work out a date of birth, her address at the time of marriage and it should give you her father's name and occupation all of which help confirm or find information.

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Sep 2016 21:42

Don't discount the fact that she might have been ELLEN

Mike *

Mike * Report 1 Sep 2016 21:40

Maybe she was born abroad ??


Helen Egan
in the New York, State Census, 1915


Name:
Helen Egan

Birth Year:
abt 1903

Birth Place:
United States

Age:
12

Residence Place:
New York, Bronx

Relationship:
Daughter


Thomas F Egan 50
Elizabeth F Egan 48
Joseph T Egan 21
Elizabeth F Egan 18
John Egan 15
Helen Egan 12

malyon

malyon Report 1 Sep 2016 21:34


Births Jun 1903 (>99%)

EGAN Helen Barrow F. 8e 828

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Sep 2016 21:24

Could someone please check the 1939 register for a date of birth etc.

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Sep 2016 21:22

Up to six possible children in manchester up to 1946. Won't post as could be living.

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Sep 2016 21:20

Welcome to the message boards.


Marriage for ref

urname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%)
Egan Helen Tomlinson Manchester S. 8d 271

Tomlinson Herbert Egan Manchester S. 8d 271

Andy

Tracey

Tracey Report 1 Sep 2016 21:18

Trying to trace Helen Egan born about 1906 lived in Manchester . Married Herbert Tomlinson 1931. Any advise as she is not coming up on lists. May have used a different name to marry. Many thanks Tracey Tomlinson .