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With the help of some of you kind folk, I have gone as far as I can on my side on the family (Yelland_ but am now on my late husbands family . Have got as far back as 1835 when his Grandfather Edward Sharman Morris was born (died 1862 Poplar) and married Justina Margaret Garden in1823. She was born around 1800 and died 1869-Limehouse.I have tried and tried and can;t get any further back. The Morris family I think were quite wealthy - but ? I would so grateful for any help - I realise the name Morris is a common one but they were NOT Welsh ! as far as I know and lived mostly around the London area. I don;t know where the Warringtons came from - London area I suspect.
Be pleased to hear from anyone who might have any ideas.
Thanks in advance.
Pat

Please could you clarify birth and marriage dates for Edward Sharman?

This looks to be the baptism of your Edward Sharman Morris but he can't have married in 1823?

London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933 Transcription

First name(s) Edward Sharman
Last name Morris
Birth year 1834
Birth date 15/09/1834
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 19 Jul 1835
Address Poplar
Father's first name(s) John
Father's occupation Surveyor
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Parish All Saints, Poplar
Church address East India Dock Road
County London
Country England
Docklands Ancestors reference X089/097
Record set London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933

Edward Sharman Morris

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Edward Sharman Morris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1835
Father's name: John Morris
Mother's name: Ann Morris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Poplar All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 15 Sep. 1834, father a surveyor

And this looks to be Edward and Justina in 1861. Justina born c 1837.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25, Harley Street, Bow, Poplar, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Morris Head Married Male 26 1835 Martins 2 Men... Poplar, Middlesex, England
Justina Morris Wife Married Female 24 1837 - Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Steeger Visitor Married Female 50 1811 - London, Middlesex, England
Justina Morris Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Diane C L Baker Servant Unmarried Female 41 1820 General Servant Haxton, Middlesex, England

for ref
Name: Edward Sharman Morris
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1835
Father's name: John Morris -------- a surveyor
Mother's name: Ann Morris
Parish or Poor Law Union: Poplar All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

1841 ????

Name: John Morris
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Poplar
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 702
Book: 3
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Morris 40 - a surveyor
Ann Morris 40
Ann Morris 15
John Morris 12
Edward Morris 6
William Morris 5
George Morris 2
Jane Edgecom 38
Ann Harris 14

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JESTINA MARGARET
Last name GARDEN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1860
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JESTINA MARGARET GARDEN married one of these people
EDWARD SPARMAN MORRIS, DENNIS DRISCOLL
District POPLAR
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 907

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Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
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Donoghue Bridget Poplar 1c 907
Driscoll Dennis Poplar 1c 907
***Garden Justina Margaret Poplar 1c 907
***Morris Edward Spencer Poplar 1c 907

You are all so kind. I have since discovered a marriage for Joghn and Anne in London ONTARIO. Goodness knows how or why they got there.
Edward Sharman Morris married in 1860 - sorry.
So now looking for parents of John Morris and Anne Warrington.
Thanks again all.
Pat

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Trinity Terrace, Poplar, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Morris Head Married Male 50 1801 Architeds & Surveyor Southill, Bedfordshire, England
Anne Morris Wife Married Female 51 1800 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Anne Morris Daughter Unmarried Female 26 1825 - Poplar, Middlesex, England
John Warrington Morris Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Architect & Surveyor Poplar, Middlesex,
Emily Morris Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 - Poplar, Middlesex, England
Edward Thorman Morris Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Auctioneer Poplar, Middlesex<<<<<<<
William Morris Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex, England
George Reeves Morris Son Unmarried Male 12 1839 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex, England
Reeves Morris Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex, England

<<<<<Original reads Sharman

Spellings I have are correct for Edward Sharman Morris and Justina Margaret Garden - we have oil portraitsof them ! but they are often misspelt in census returns.

Maybe Dad -John was being a surveyor out in CANADAat the time of his marriage in 1823.
Thanks again
Pat

If this is the marriage you refer to, then it's a little closer to London, than Ontario!

As one of the sons has the middle name of Warrington on the 1851 census, then I expect it to be the correct one

John Morris
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: John Morris
Spouse: Anne Warrington
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Apr 1823
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Original says John Morris of the parish of All Saints, Poplar. Middx Bachelor and Anne Warrington of this Parish (i.e. St Annes', Limehouse) Spinster.

Married by Licence. Both signed.
Witnesses (??) Morris,, Edward Warrington and Mary (H)ain

John Morris

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: John Morris
Spouse: Anne Warrington
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Apr 1823
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Married by license.

??????

London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921
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Name John Morris
Age 21
Birth Year abt 1802
Event Date 10 Apr 1823
Parish All Saints, Poplar
County Middlesex
Spouse's Name Ann Warrington
Spouse's Age 21
Spouse's Parish Limehouse, St Anne
Spouse's County Middlesex
Event Type Allegation
Reference Number Ms 10091/201
Household Members
Name Age
John Morris
Ann Warrington

1861 England Census
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Name John Morris
Age 60
Estimated Birth Year 1801
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Anne Morris
Gender Male
Where born South Hill, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish Poplar All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish All Saints
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Poplar
Sub-registration district Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel 13
Household schedule number 60
Piece 307
Folio 4
Page number 10
Household Members
Name Age
John Morris
Anne Morris
William Morris
George R Morris
Reeves Morris
Elizabeth Phipps
Greshor Stevens
Sarah Philips

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
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Name John Morris
Death Date 16 Jul 1862
Death Place Middlesex, England
Probate Date 6 Aug 1862
1 harlow villas, east india road poplar, architect and surveyor , died 16/07/1862 proved by the oath of edward sharman morris, stationer and william morris civil engineer

effects under £4000

A tree on Ancetry list 7 children of Edward & Justina.

Probate of Edward Sharman Morris has effects £9112 14s 6d.

Justina left £13334 6s 10d.


Justina Margaret Morris

in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
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Name: Justina Margaret Morris
Death Date: 2 Dec 1926
Death Place: Devon, England
Probate Date: 13 Jan 1927
Registry: London, England

?????
Looking at the birthplace of Anne Warrington, could this be a possibility for her parents marriage.

Edward is shown as born Limehouse too. It might explain the middle name of "Warrington" and "Sharman" in John and Anne's children


Edward Warrington
mentioned in the record of Edward Warrington and Susanna Sharman
Name Edward Warrington
Birthplace Limehouse Middlesex
Spouse's Name Susanna Sharman
Event Date 30 Apr 1792
Event Place St. Peter, Wisbeach, Cambridge, England

I am sure you are all right abou tthe marriage being in Limehouse - I simply couldn;t find it. Any ideas as to how I could find out any more about John Morris b 1802 or the Warrington family please. Looks like John was born Bedfordshire ? That's odd - old family tale that they were direct ancestors of Dukes of Bedfordshire- Russells and terrific family likeness in photos of my husbands Father Percy and Bertrand Russell - could be twins ! Probalby rubbish !
Thanks again
Pat

John Morris

England and Wales Census, 1841

Name John Morris
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Woburn, Bedfordshire, England
Residence Note Bedford Street
Gender Male
Age 35-39
Age (Original) 35
Birth Year (Estimated) 1802-1806
Birthplace Bedfordshire
Registration District Woburn
Book Number 39 PT 2
Parish Woburn
County Bedfordshire
Page Number 10
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 5/8
Affiliate Record Type Household

Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place Woburn, Bedfordshire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish Ely
Registration District Woburn
Residence Note Cobbs Row
Gender Male
Age 59
Occupation Taylor
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1802
Birthplace Lidlington, Bedfordshire
Page Number 16
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 1003 / 163
Affiliate Record Type Household



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

John Morris Head M 59 Lidlington, Bedfordshire
Henry Staniford Visitor M 15 Woburn, Bedfordshire