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I have copy of death cert for my Richard Francis Sinclair Died 20 June 1978 in Hammersmith, Born 27th Aug 1919.
Just can't find him after marriage to Edith Miles in 1939 until late 1940's when he is living with Joan Vera Sinclair( no marriage that I can find)
Joan Vera Sinclair is next of kin on death cert.
Assuming he must have been serving in the war during the gap and now I know he was not in RAF ( that was other RFS) so hoping he is the RFS on the British Army Casualty Lists 1939-1945.
Only other thing that has been mentioned by family about him is that he may have been in the Queen's Guards and worn a busby??

I don't have an FMP sub - I'm sure someone else will look it up for you.

It's on Find my Past
British Army Casualty Lists 1939-1945
R F Sinclair ( nothing in the Born or Died column but 1944 in event column

I don't see that record on Ancestry. What website did you find it on?

Ancestry has these (not casualties):

R . F . Sinclair
in the UK, British Army Lists, 1882-1962
Name: R . F . Sinclair
Military Year: 1944
Regiment: The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Rank: Quarter Master



R . F . Sinclair
in the UK, British Army Lists, 1882-1962
Name: R . F . Sinclair
Military Year: 1944
Regiment: SUTHERLAND
Rank: 2nd Lieutenant



R . F . Sinclair
in the UK, British Army Lists, 1882-1962
Name: R . F . Sinclair
Military Year: 1944
Regiment: Territorial Army Associations
Rank: Maj

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On the CWGC website, this is the only death of an R F Sinclair in WW2 - so not Richard, and not in 1944:

SINCLAIR, ROBERT FINLAYSON Civilian 01/09/1942 47
Civilian War Dead United Kingdom BORNEO

Thanks for the info,
I thought it maybe a easy search to reunite the other Richard's POW service report to any family interested. A friend went to a lot of effort to get them for me and don't want to have completely wasted his time.
Still looking for my RFS though and there is a RF Sinclair on the British Army Casualty Lists 1939-1945, event 1944?
Could anyone tell me the details of that record please?

Marriages Mar 1935 (>99%)
Bliss Renée M Sinclair Billericay 4a 879
Sinclair Walter R Bliss Billericay 4a 879

Two (or maybe three) Sinclair / Bliss births in Chelmsford 1942 and 1945.
Daughter in 1945.
Either twin boys or one boy with a correction to the first name, (probably the latter)in 1942.

The daughter probably married in Chelmsford in 1970.
She, with husband, and two sons are on Chelmsford ER in 2006 - I don't have credits on 192.com to see address.
One son born 1978 Chelmsford - he's on Chelmsford ER until 2004.
The other son born 1984 Chelmsford, and on ER to 2006..


However, this is all to do with the WRONG Richard!, not your one!

These are the parents of that wrong RFS:

Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
FRANCIS Mona Kingston 2a 913
SINCLAIR Robert Russell Kingston 2a 913


In 1939, Richard F, Mona H (b1879), and Robert R (b1877) are all in Brentwood.
Also two more people (I don't have credits to see the details.)


Possible sibling of Richard??

SINCLAIR, WALTER ROBERT mms FRANCIS
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in BILLERICAY Volume 04A Page 675

Walter's in Chelmsford in 1939, with Renee M, born 1914..

I have now got some details of Richard Francis Sinclair's service records.
It's a different Richard born in Jan 1920, Essex and not 27th Aug 1919, Fulham.
I have yet again, followed the wrong path.
So I now have a service report of RFS and it is very interesting reading but it is not my RFS ( who is still missing from marriage in 1939 until 1946)
I would like to pass this report on to any family of RFS born 28th Jan 1920 in Billericay, Essex Enlisted 1940 while living in Brentwood Essex.
As yet I can't find any family?

www.wartimememories.co.uk

It may help.

Hi Nicola,

You could try The Wartime memories Project - and go into WW2 - you have his service number so that might help. Follow your 'nose' and have a look at the site. I found help with my Uncle killed in WW2 and they gave me his Service Number - I did spend the 30 pounds and it was well worth it.

Good luck,.
P.hen

Thanks for your reply, I have ordered copy of death cert and hope that it's enough to get his service records.

It looks like you might have to take a chance and order a copy of the 1978 death cert, and hope it's the right one.

Hoping someone could tell me how I can obtain Richard F Sinclair service records.
The form is a nightmare! which I have printed off but I am not next of kin.
Richard (Husbands grandfather) was born 1919 and died in 1978, Can't request online and unless the person was born over 116 years ago you have to supply death cert.
After research discovered that Richard has no descendants or living family apart from my husbands mother (who knows very little about him) But he had a fascinating RAF service history, that no one knew about. and I can only scratch the surface of without access to his service records. Any advice would be great.

I know that Richard F Sinclair lived in Hammersmith area most of his life, married in late 1930's and pretty sure had no children from this marriage.
He died in late 70's or early 80's, still in that area. 99% sure he is Richard F Sinclair, Death June 1978, Fulham.
I need to show this latest info to a family member and hope something jogs a memory.
Thanks

In that case, the 1939 details must be incorrect - which is not very helpful!

The Gravesend birth is unlikely:

Death:
First name(s) HARRY
Last name SINCLAIR
Gender Male
Birth year 1875
Age 0
Death quarter 3
Death year 1875
District Gravesend
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 232

Burial:
First name(s) Harry
Last name Sinclair
Age at death 1 Week
Birth year 1875
Burial year 1875
Burial date 03 Sep 1875
Residence High Street
Place Gravesend
Burial ground Municipal Cemetery
County Kent

Possibly Harry's birth, if 1939 details are correct:

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Sinclair Harry Gravesend 2a 418


SINCLAIR, HARRY mms WELCH
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in GRAVESEND Volume 02A Page 418


Possible marriages for parents: [ EDIT: no, not either of these - see below.]

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
SINCLAIR John Stepney 1c 1017
Welch Hannah Stepney 1c 1017
Wilhelmy Elizabeth Stepney 1c 1017
Wooder William Stepney 1c 1017


Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
Sinclair Donald John Medway 2a 721
Welch Ann Elizabeth Medway 2a 721

BUT -
The 1872 couple are traceable in censuses, and they did have a son Harry, but he was born 1884 in Chatham.

and re 1867 marriage -

John Sinclair married Elizabeth Wilhelmy - so that marriage isn't Harry's parents, either:

Elizabeth Wilhelmy
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Elizabeth Wilhelmy
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Age: 30
Spouse: John Sinelair
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Nov 1867
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Spouse Father: James Sinelair
Register Type: Parish Register

Jessie W Sinclair
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Jessie W Sinclair
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Dec 1940
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 276

Jessie W Hope
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Jessie W Hope
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Roland H Hope
Mother's name: Eliza Hope
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: West Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 431
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Roland H Hope 34
Eliza Hope 31
Gilbert R Hope 6
Harry R Hope 3
Jessie W Hope 1



Jessie Winifred Hope
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Jessie Winifred Hope
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Wrotham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Great Comp Cottage, Borough Green
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Malling
Registration District Number: 48
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 3984
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Steve Bright Mc Laren 57
Eva Maria Mc Laren 58
Mary Campbell Mc Laren 45
Jessie Winifred Hope 20
Mary Pether 45

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Hope Jessie Winifred Wandsworth 1d 629



Jessie Winifred Hope
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Jessie Winifred Hope
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Nov 1889
Father's name: Rowland Henry Hope
Mother's name: Eliza Hope
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Stephen
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers




Jessie W Hope
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Jessie W Hope
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Roland H Hope
Mother: Eliza Hope
Birth Place: Battersea, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 405
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Roland H Hope 44
Eliza Hope 41
Gilbert R Hope 15
Harry R Hope 13
Jessie W Hope 11
John B Hope 6
Percy A Hope 4
George R Grish 40