Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Harry Wilson Frankland 1892-1970 USA

ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Mark

Mark Report 13 Feb 2017 23:58

Thank you - yes I have contacted many people over the years. Many are pleased to hear from a distant family member but I have been blanked by some or told they are not interested in the slightest. Cheers

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Feb 2017 23:40

One of the trees shows Lucille as having 2 children with Thomas, and this 2nd marriage

Massachusetts, Marriage Index, 1901-1955 and 1966-1970
Lucille Gingras Schurman
Marriage Year 1969
Marriage Place Lowell, Massachusetts, USA
Spouse Armand
Volume Number 46
Page number 460
Index Volume Number 204/205
Reference Number F63.M36 v. 204/205
1969 - Lowell - 46 460
Household Members
Name Age
Armand
Lucille Gingras Schurman

They've linked her death to this obit
U.S., Obituary Collection, 1930-2015
Lucille Gingras
Gender: Female
Age at Death: 95
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1918
Birth Place: Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA
Death Date: 13 May 2013
Obituary Date: 17 May 2013
Spouse: Armand Sonny Gingras
Parents: Frank Henry
Children: Barbara Calhoun of Beverly Hills, FL <<<
Siblings: Jeanne Beverly Volis of Lowell

Lucille Schurman Gingras
Gender: Female
Age at Death: 95
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1918
Birth Place: Lowell, Connecticut, USA
Death Date: 13 May 2013
Spouse: Armand Sonny Gingras
Parents: Frank Henry
Children: Barbara Calhoun of Beverly Hills, FL
Siblings: Jeanne Beverly Volis of Lowell

Contact details for Barbara can be found here http://www.whitepages.com or just copy & paste the name and residence for Barbara into your browser bar and pick up the White Pages's result.

You can read her husband's obit giving the names of their children here
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lowellsun/obituary.aspx?n=james-f-calhoun&pid=1575643

Try googling their names and location for contact details, and possibly facebook for both Barbara and them

If you do decide to make contact, do remember that not everyone is interested in family history!

Mark

Mark Report 13 Feb 2017 23:33

Have contacted a few people and done a full google search. Many thanks for your help.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Feb 2017 23:25

U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1

Jane M Frankland 20 Aug 1919 51 Chase Ave, Lowell, MA, 01854-1405 (1996)
Thomas H Frankland 51 Chase Ave, Lowell, MA, 01854-1405 (1996)

No other Frankland's at the same address or, for that matter, in Lowell in that data base. Of course, if they did have children they could have moved away.

Have you tried searching all member trees - top right under search - or contacting the Ancestry tree owner?

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Feb 2017 23:09

Its a combintaion of laws and whats available on the internet! Sometimes you can pick up other people with the same surname living at the same address.

The SSDI shows he died in Florida

Thomas H. Frankland
SSN: 019-01-7918
Last Residence:
33716 Saint Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida, USA
BORN: 4 Aug 1914
Died: 10 Jan 2001
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

He'd obviously moved there by 1993
U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1
Thomas H Frankland
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1914
Phone Number: 522-1600
Address: 1100 54th Ave N, Saint Petersburg, FL, 33703-2746 (1993)

An different entry
U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2
Thomas Frankland
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1914
Address: 10300 4th St N, Saint Petersburg, FL, 33716-3810

has another resident
Jane Frankland Birth Date: 20 Aug 1919

Its possible that either Lucille died or they went their seperate ways after 1956.

Janes's death
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Jane Roberta Middleton
[Jane Middleton Frankland]
[Jane Frankland]
SSN: 015127530
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1919
Birth Place: Henryetta, Oklahoma
Death Date: 22 Jun 2000
Father: John Middleton
Mother: Janet Watson
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Sep 1938: Name listed as JANE ROBERTA MIDDLETON; Aug 1960: Name listed as JANE MIDDLETON FRANKLAND; 29 Jun 2000: Name listed as JANE M FRANKLAND

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Jane M. Frankland
SSN: 015-12-7530
Last Residence:
33716 Saint Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida, USA
BORN: 20 Aug 1919
Died: 22 Jun 2000
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Feb 2017 22:56

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

Thomas Holt Frankland
[Thomas H Frankland]
SSN: 019017918
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1914
Birth Place: Lowell, Massachusetts
Death Date: 10 Jan 2001
Father: Harry W Frankland
Mother: Mary Holt
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: May 1937: Name listed as THOMAS HOLT FRANKLAND; 24 Jan 2001: Name listed as THOMAS H FRANKLAND
............

U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995
Thomas H Frankland
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1956
Street address: 135 Chelmsford
Residence Place: Lowell, Massachusetts, USA
Occupation: MacHinist
Spouse: Lucille Frankland
Publication Title: Lowell, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1956

Mark

Mark Report 13 Feb 2017 22:55

Thank you +++DetEcTive+++

I am hoping to make connections with any living family they may of had. I realise that laws are different in other countries due to privacy.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Feb 2017 22:47

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

Thomas Holt Frankland
[Thomas H Frankland]
SSN: 019017918
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1914
Birth Place: Lowell, Massachusetts
Death Date: 10 Jan 2001
Father: Harry W Frankland
Mother: Mary Holt
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: May 1937: Name listed as THOMAS HOLT FRANKLAND; 24 Jan 2001: Name listed as THOMAS H FRANKLAND
............

U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995
Thomas H Frankland
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1956
Street address: 135 Chelmsford
Residence Place: Lowell, Massachusetts, USA
Occupation: MacHinist
Spouse: Lucille Frankland
Publication Title: Lowell, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1956

Mark

Mark Report 13 Feb 2017 20:53

Thank you - according to a tree on ancestry Thomas died in 2001

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Feb 2017 20:52

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 No Image

Name: Harry Frankland
SSN: 015-07-8200
Last Residence:
33703 Saint Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida, USA
BORN: 22 Dec 1891
Died: Mar 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Feb 2017 20:50

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Harry Frankland
Birth Year: abt 1893
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Winthrop Ave
Ward of City: 4th
Block: 85
House Number in Cities or Towns: 54
Dwelling Number: 220
Family Number: 243
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Home Value: 5000.00
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 20
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1911
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Mechanic
Industry: Gorage
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Frankland 37
Mary Frankland 37
Thomas Frankland 15

Andy

Mark

Mark Report 13 Feb 2017 20:49

Thank you Robert

His Mother was Ada, and he had a brother and a sister Robert and Elizabeth

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Feb 2017 20:49

1920 United States Federal Census


Name: Harry W Frankland
Age: 25
[28]
Birth Year: abt 1895
[abt 1892]
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Lowell Ward 9, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Street: Billerica Street
House Number: 8
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary H Frankland
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Repair Man
Industry: Automobile
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry W Frankland 25
[28]
Mary H Frankland 25
Thomas H Frankland 5

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 13 Feb 2017 20:46

??

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
View UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Report issue

Name: Harry Frankland
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 2 May 1911
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Boston, USA
Ship Name: Ivernia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Ivernia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 110643
Master: Thos Gother

With Ada, Robert and Elizabeth

Andy

Mark

Mark Report 13 Feb 2017 20:40

The above named gentleman the son of James Frankland and Ada Medlock. Harry was born in Rawtenstall, England but records on Ancestry show he died in America in 1970. I believe he married Mary Holt and had a son Thomas 1914-2001. Any further details to make contact with living relatives would be most grateful. Thank you

Name:
Harry Wilson Frankland
Gender:
Male
Record Type:
Declaration
Birth Date:
22 Dec 1891
Birth Place:
Lancashire, England
Arrival Date:
11 May 1911
Arrival Place:
Boston, Massachusetts
Spouse:
Mary Holt
Declaration Number:
274645