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Just in case any helpers are wondering about the Scottish side of Naiomi's family -

Rather than mix it up with this Mathis / Taylor thread, Naiomi PM'd me some details, and I've PM'd back all that I can find without spending credits on SP, plus some census and travel records.

Have gone as far back as I can be sure of accuracy, based on what she told me. If she wants to know anything further back, she'll have to buy credits to look at images of certs, to find out people's parents' names.

If you post the Taylor details that you have I am sure members on here will be able to help.

Yes I have use family search lots. I have just this afternoon got access to my distant relatives tree. And I am shocked how much I got right from family search.

I now chasing my taylor side, I have found my nan's granddads records, 2 census and baptism... Can hardly read what they say.. May take a while.

<3

Family Search is free and does have some European BMD here's a link


https://familysearch.org/

Am pleased to hear you managed to get in touch but Rome wasn't built in a day and you may find other leads to Wm Otto from other sources ..You never know what's round the corner.

I have managed to get in contact with great granddad William's, niece's son.

Who I am hoping will fill in some gaps about Henry Mathis's side, my great granddads brother.

As for my great great granddad their father William Otto Mathis born in Switzerland/Germany I think past that, it will always be a mystery.

Thank you for all your help. I couldn't of found that relative without you all.

Yes Eringobragh, I think you may be right! <3

Someone else looking for same family...???

http://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=14292&p=48116

http://burials.wandsworth.gov.uk/

(worth a look on above)

Chris :)

Edits (also below, can be useful)

All London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 (Ancestry)

These are some of the children of William O M Mathis (all with mother's maiden name Gough/ Goff)

I doesn't seem as though all the births were registered (unless someone else can find them)

MATHIS, CHARLIE mmn: GOUGH
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in STRAND Volume 01B Page 665
(Born late 1886- registered 1887- died 1889)

England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
name(s) Charles Mathis
Birth date 20 Nov 1886
Baptism date 05 Dec 1886
Church St Anselm & St Cecilia
Parish Lincoln's Inn Fields (Sardinian Chapel)
Diocese Westminster
Ecclesiastical province Westminster
County Middlesex
Father's name William Mathis
Mother's name Ellen Gough
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MATHIS, HENRY mmn: GOUGH
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in STRAND Volume 01B Page 674

England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
name(s) Henry Mathis
Birth date 12 Feb 1888
Baptism date 10 Mar 1888
Church St Anselm & St Cecilia
Parish Lincoln's Inn Fields (Sardinian Chapel)
Diocese Westminster
Ecclesiastical province Westminster
County Middlesex
Father's name(s) William Mathis
Mother's name(s) Ellen Gough
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MATHIS, EDWARD GEORGE mmn: GOUGH
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 548

MATHIS, DANIEL mmn: GOUGH
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 598
(died 1892)

MATHIS, ELLEN mmn: GOUGH
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 600
(died 1893)

MATHIS, GEORGE mmn: GOUGH
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 690
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MATHIS, MARIE mmn: GOFF
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 575

Name: Marie Mathis
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1897
Father's name: William Mathis
Mother's name: Ellen Mathis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Saviour
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Don't worry- it's a lot of information to get your head around, It's often easier to see information laid out in a tree (I have mine on Ancestry).

Moritz Mathis married Emily Worsfold in 1905.

They had children:

MATHIS, MARIE ROSE IVY (mother's maiden name: WORSFOLD)
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 730

MATHIS, EMILY ELLEN (mother's maiden name: WORSFOLD)
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 485

(They are on the 1911 census with Morris)
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Marie Rose Ivy Mathis married Charles Cohen in 1928

Emily Ellen Mathis married Frederick H Groves in 1933

Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
Groves Frederick H Mathis Battersea 1d 792
Mathis Emily E Groves Battersea 1d 792

That's Emily Ellen Mathis, showing in 1911 census posted earlier.

Child of Rose? I am confused.

So Emily born Emily Worsfold is the wife of Morris Mathis ?

There children are ?

Who is Groves ?

I feel so stupid. Can you believe I run 3 communtiy groups and massive communtiy events. I fill risk assessments out weekly, but this is so confusing.
I can't thank you enough though.
I gave up and was planning a trip to the archives in Surrey. I have a feeling I would of been brainless there too.

I suspect he was born Moritz but names were often anglicised.

This is his wife Emily (nee Worsfold) in 1939 (Haven't found Moritz/ Morris yet):

Mathis Household Beecholme Glenville Road , Worthing R.D., Sussex, England
Emily Mathis 23 May 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Frederick H Groves 16 Oct 1899 Male Produce Brokers Manager Married
Emily E Groves 01 Mar 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Barry F Groves 24 Jan 1934 Male At School Single
Closed Record
Maureen A Owen (Cohen) 21 Sep 1934 Male At School Single

Emily is her daughter, and Maureen is her grandchild (child of Rose)

I have sent you a message AustinQ

wow AustinQ your amazing. Thank you. Trying to process all the information. Everything I saw regarding Morris Otto had him as Moritz. <3

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
22 Millgrove St Battersea, Battersea, London, England

William Otto Montz Mathis Head Widower Male Stone Mason 53 1858 Germany
Edward G Mathis Son Single Male Clerk 21 1890 England
George Mathis Son Single Male Porter 16 1895 England
Marie Mathis Daughter Single Female School 13 1898 England
Morris Otto Mathis Son Married Male Stone Mason 27 1884 France
Emily Clara Mathis Wife Married Female - 25 1886 England
Rosie Marie Ivy Mathis Granddaughter - Female - 5 1906 England
Emily Ellen Mathis Granddaughter - Female - 2 1909 England

*William Otto Montz Mathis -14 children (6 still living)

*Morris Otto Mathis - married 6 years, 2 children (2 still living)
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Death:
First name(s) WILLIAM M O
Last name MATHIS
Gender Male
Birth year 1858
Age 53
Death quarter 2
Death year 1911
District Wandsworth
County London
Volume 1D Page 215

Younger brother:

Births Mar 1912
Mathis Edward G MMN: Jarrald Wandsworth 1d 940

I have my grandmothers details which are

Violet Taylor 1919-2000

Her husband (who's family I am looking into, well trying) William Mathis 1907-1978

I have a sister for him as Rosina Mathis 1905 ?

Their father as William Mathis 1881 - 1971 ?
Their mother as Rose Jarrold 1883 ?

And then believe his father William Mathis born around 1850s from Switzerland. ? :-)

1939:

Mathis Household 15 Elsey Road , Battersea, London, England

William (Thomas) Mathis 25 Jun 1881 Male Stone Mason (Foreman) Married
Ellenor R Mathis 13 Oct 1883 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
William H Mathis 01 Jul 1907 Male Stone Man Single
Edward G Mathis 02 Mar 1912 Male Stone Man Single