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Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%)
GRETTON Sarah Rochdale 8e 56
SEEL Samuel Rochdale 8e 56

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Tritton Street, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England

Samuel Seel Head Married Male 54 1827 Joiner & Carpenter Stalybridge, Cheshire, England
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Sarah Seel Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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Clara Seel Daughter Single Female 13 1868 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England
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Sarah Seel Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Wandsworth, Surrey, England
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Elizabeth Robinson Lodger Head Widow Female 32 1849 Charwoman Wrotham, Kent, England
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Alfred Robinson Son Single Male 10 1871 - Croydon, Surrey, England
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Emma Robinson Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Wimbledon, Surrey, England

SEEL, CLARA MMN GRETTON
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 66

Sarah left her son Thomas with Elizabeth.

Apologies if i sent anyone on a wild goose chase with the 1858 marriage i posted.

Here is Sarah on the 1861 census with a son.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Swinerootings, Spotland, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Thomas Hothersall Head Married Male 29 1832 Agricultural Labourer Todmorden, Yorkshire, England
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Elizabeth Hothersall Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Hathern, Leicestershire, England
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Sarah Gretton Visitor Unmarried Female 28 1833 - Hathern, Leicestershire, England
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Thomas Gretton Visitor Unmarried Male 0 1861 - Yorkshire, England

On Ancesty.......Hothersall is actually Hollinrake......which does look right on the image.

Elizabeth is possible Sarah's sister.

I can't find a suitable marriage though.

GRETTON, THOMAS No Father Named
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in TODMORDEN Volume 09A Page 214


Elizabeth in 1851..........

Elizabeth Gretton in the 1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Gretton
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hathern, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Willim Huges 30
Mary Huges 26
David Leakey 19
James Briggs 21
William Buckley 15
John Williams 16
Elizabeth Gretton 26

You do seem to have found the correct deaths?

Death:
On the 17th, aged 25, Mr. Thomas Gretton, Ward's End ;
22 January 1857 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottingham

Death:
At Hathern, near Loughborough, on the 9th instant, aged 25, Maria, wife of Mr. Thomas Gretton.
16 October 1856 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottingha

Dea x

The probate record doesn't say that she left her money to John William Oldham, only that he is executor of the will. In order to see who she left her money to you have to buy the will.

I have to pop off for a bit.

I have been trying to follow the sister Sarah in case she took care of Clara.

I think this is her on the 1851 census.

Transcribed as ........Sarah Gretton Hawley.........but she is a sevant to Hawley family.

Sarah Gretton Hawley in the 1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Gretton Hawley
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Wm Hawley
Mother's name: Elizth Hawley
Gender: Female
Where born: Hathern, Leicestershire, England

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester

Wm Hawley 45
Elizth Hawley 3??
Emma Hawley 11
Louisa Stubbs Hawley 10
David Geo Hawley 8
Fanny Hawley 7
Wm Geo Hawley 4
Philip John Hawley 2
Sarah Gretton Hawley 20.....Single.........Servant


Possible marriage......

Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
Bridger William Richard Leicester 7a 302
Eyre Lydia Leicester 7a 302
Gretton Sarah Leicester 7a 302
Hutchinson James Leicester 7a 302

Will pop back a bit later.........Prickles;o))

Likely this sister was the witness:

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Gretton
Birth year 1827
Baptism year 1827
Baptism date 23 Sep 1827
Baptism place Hathern
Denomination Anglican
County Leicestershire
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Harriet

This is Clara's parents marriage:

Leicestershire marriages

name(s) Thomas Gretton (framework knitter)
Age A Minor
Birth year -
Residence Hathern
Father's name(s) Thomas Gretton (framework knitter)
Marriage year 1852
Marriage date 20 Sep 1852
Spouse's name(s) Maria Lovett (factory hand)
Spouse's age Of Full Age
Spouse's residence Hathern
Spouse's father's name(s) John Sketchly (groom)
Denomination Anglican
Place Hathern
County Leicestershire

Witnesses: William Hinkling & Elisabeth Gretton

A sister......

Sarah Gretton in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Sarah Gretton
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1831
Birth Place: Hathern, Leicestershire, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Father: Thomas Gretton
Mother: Hariot
Denomination: General Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 1782: Sutton Bonnington, near Loughborough (General Baptist Chapel), 1785-1837

Thomas Gretton in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Thomas Gretton
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1833
Birth Place: Hathern, Leicestershire, England
Gender: Male
Event Type: Birth
Father: Thomas Gretton
Mother: Hariott
Denomination: General Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 1782: Sutton Bonnington, near Loughborough (General Baptist Chapel), 1785-1837

Nice find PH- Would seem the other Thomas is more likely then.

Wonder if the 1804 Thomas was the father of the later Thomas.

So, if Clara was orphaned, who took care of her?

There is this marriage...........but if Maria died in 1856!!


Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
Gretton Thomas Loughborough 7a 301
Sleath Sarah Loughborough 7a 301

So maybe the other Thomas you found is the correct one Austin?

If it's the one I posted in 1851- looks like he also died- which would've left Clara an orphan:

GRETTON, THOMAS age: 25
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH Volume 07A Page 71

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The age of this Thomas would fit better with the age of Maria.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pinfold Gate, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Sarah Sleath Head Widow Female 46 1805 Maker Up Of Cotton Hosiery Hathern, Leicestershire, England
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Hannah Sleath Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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Joseph Sleath Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 F W K (Cotton Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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Thomas Sleath Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 Scholar Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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Subina Sleath Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1847 Scholar Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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Sarah Clarke Lodger Unmarried Female 24 1827 Maker Up Of Worsted Hosiery Ibstock, Leicestershire, England
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Thomas Clarke Son Unmarried Male 3 1848 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, England
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John Clarke Son Unmarried Male 0 1851 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Darn it, there's also this one:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
From Halbern Inn, Derby Road, Hathern, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Benjamin Glover Head Married Male 27 1824 F W K (Cotton) Mountsorrel, Leicestershire
Mary Ann Glover Wife Married Female 25 1826 Seamer & Winder Of (Cotton Greasley, Nottinghamshire
Mary Ann Glover Daughter - Female 0 1851 Home Nottinghamshire,
Thomas Gretton - Unmarried Male 18 1833 F W K (Cotton) Hathern, Leicestershire

??

Leicestershire burials Transcription

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Gretton
Age 60
Birth year 1804
Death year 1864
Burial year 1864
Burial date 23 Feb 1864
Burial place Hathern
Denomination Anglican
County Leicestershire
Country England
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE731/12
Record set Leicestershire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

On the baptism, Thomas is a framework knitter.

If Maria had died, perhaps he remarried?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Carlton, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

Thomas Greston Head Married Male 57 1804 Cotton Framework Knitter Hathern, Leicester
Sarah Greston Wife Married Female 54 1807 Needle Woman Hathern, Leicestershire
Hannah Sleath Daughter Unmarried Female 28 1833 Needle Woman Loughborough,
Joseph Sleath Son Married Male 22 1839 Cotton Framework Knitter Loughborough,
Julian Sleath Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Factory Girl Loughborough, Leicestershire

OK, baptised 1855, but born 1852:

GRETTON, CLARA mmn: LOVETT
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH Volume 07A Page 123

Possible death for Maria:

Name: Maria Gretton
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Loughborough
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a Page: 66

GRETTON, MARIA age: 25
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH Volume 07A Page 66

Leicester Chronicle - Saturday 18 October 1856
GRETTON-
On the 9th inst. at Hathern, aged 26, Maria, wife of Mr T Gretton.

Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%)
Gretton Thomas Loughborough 7a 179
Lovett Maria Loughborough 7a 179

I have just come across a Clara Lovett Gretton baptisted 8/4/1855 at Hathern, father Thomas mother Maria.
Maybe I have been given the wrong father ( James ) for her?
I wasn't able to find Clara on the Ancestry 1901 Census but did find her on the Find My Past Census as Clarice as well as her daughter Clara Emma & sent notification off to correct it
On the 1881 Census it has a son Arthur aged 15 years.
I do not have their marriage certificate but I will order one to give me her fathers name etc.
Thank you for your input
Ellen