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This looks like the family debi found in 1881 - their names Cook though. All the birthplaces match the 1871 & 'William' could be your John William?

Charles Cook
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Downham, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: 35 Charlotte St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Laborer Pitch & Tar Wks

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Cook 12
Charles Cook 36
Eliza Cook 33
George Cook 2
Harry Cook 10
Kate Cook 7
William Cook 5

snap debi!!

1881 England Census
about Charles Cook

Name: Charles Cook
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Downham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 35 Charlotte St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Laborer Pitch & Tar Wks
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19b


Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Cook 12 born: London, Middlesex,
Charles Cook 36
Eliza Cook 33 born: Ely, Cambridgeshire,
George Cook 2 born: London, Middlesex,
Harry Cook 10 born: London, Middlesex,
Kate Cook 7 born: London, Middlesex,
William Cook 5 << your John William Fretwell??


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1715; Folio: 129; Page: 2; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341410.

Can't see them on 1881 at present however there is this Charles a Labourer in the 1871 census that may be of use to you later:


Alice Fretwell abt 1869 I of Dogs, Middlesex, England Daughter West Ham Essex

Charles Fretwell abt 1846 Downham, Norfolk, England Head West Ham Essex

Eliza Fretwell abt 1847 Ely, Cambridgeshire, England Wife West Ham Essex

Henry Fretwell abt 1870 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son West Ham Essex

Hi
I know that I'm being impatient & should wait for his birth certificate to arrive but I thought I'd be able to trace John Fretwell in a census but can't!!! Could anyone help please?

Details I have are - JOHN WILLIAM FRETWELL age 22 married Margaret Chesnut (I have her in all censuses ok) on 25th December 1897 in St Mark Victoria Docks Church, West Ham. John's father was CHARLES FRETWELL who was a Labourer.John was a Seaman.

I have now sent for the birth cert for JOHN WILLIAM FRETWELL, 2nd quarter 1876 in WEST HAM - until it arrives I'm not 100% certain it is correct.

However, I can't find either John William or Charles in any census at all which is strange - I know that in the later ones, John could be at sea but not when he was 5 in 1881 surely? Where is Charles in 1861 & 1871?

If anyone could have a quick look, I'd be really grateful otherwise I'll just have to be patient and wait for any additional info that the birth cert may have (hopefully, his mother's name).

Thank you, Sue