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۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 1 Jan 2013 08:01

Francis Herbert PENGELLY married Daphne Teresa Muriel GRANT in Victoria in 1924 (reg 4796).

Daphne's death notice is listed at Ryerson so you can request a lookup, should hopefully mention any children by name.

Daphne Theresa
Death notice
11FEB1974 Death
[aged] 76
late of Camperdown
Sydney Morning Herald 13FEB1974

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 1 Jan 2013 07:58

Hi Kiwibird

WWI service record:
PENGELLY Francis Herbert : Service Number - V79754 : Place of Birth - North Melbourne VIC : Place of Enlistment - Melbourne VIC : Next of Kin - (Father) PENGELLY William Francis

Now this disputes your info that Wm died in 1908, as Francis' enlistment in 1918 aged 30yrs and 7 months gives his father as next of kin, address as 3 O'Shannassy St, North Melb. Francis was single, and a cooper by trade. A document in his record states his parents as alive and is signed by both Wm & Isabella. His birthdate is given as 20/1/1898 and birthplace the O'Shannassy address. He was discharged at his own request due to the war ending. There is a letter on his file dated 1933, requesting a copy of his discharge, where his address is shown as 72 English St, Camperdown NSW.

He then enlisted in WWII (fudging his age by 5 yrs so he could!):
PENGELLY FRANCIS HERBERT : Service Number - NX19886 : Date of birth - 20 Jan 1903 : Place of birth - MELBOURNE VIC : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY NSW : Next of Kin - PENGELLY DAPHNE

His death in 1955:
His wife's death?

Kiwibird, looks like 'your' Wm Francis PENGELLY died in 1937 in North Melbourne, aged 73 (reg 2607), son of Wm Francis (who may be the one who died in 1908!) and Mary Jane nee SEAL. Found his birth in 1863 in Hamilton, Vic to those parents (reg 20741). He was one of 8 chn born to them 1856-1875. Wm F snr and Mary Jane arrived in Victoria in Oct 1854 aboard 'Panama' aged 23 & 22 respectively. By the by his wife is shown as Isabella on all records (not Isabell).

Possible marriage for daughter Isabell in NSW?

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 1 Jan 2013 07:31

Hi Briony

Only immigration to Qld that is close:
HARBON Fred 21 Hereford 25 Aug 1883 176 18480 Z1960 M1699

Birth of Peter HARBIN to James & Margaret (nee ROBERTS) in 1864 (reg C946), then Andrew HARBIN to James & Catharine (nee OLIVER) in 1895 (reg C5571) but latter died the same year (C1701).

Are you sure they were in Qld?


Unknown Report 1 Jan 2013 03:41

Hi Cherilyn

I'm researching the HARBIN family in Australia. When you have time would you please be able to see what BMD you can find for that name in Queensland please.
Thankyou for you help.


Kiwibird Report 1 Jan 2013 00:26

Hi Cherilyn , Happy New Year

Please Could you possibly find any marriages, children or deaths for this Brother and Sister.( I spent 2 hours on Ancestry at my local library yesterday without any joy.)

Isabell Pengally b, 1894 Hotham, Victoria and Francis Herbert Pengelly b,1898 Hotham, Victoria

Their Parents were William Francis [Francis William] Pengelly b,? d,1908 and Isabell Wright b, 1863 Ballaret East, Victoria d,1951

Could not find any other siblings.

Any help most appreciated.

Thank you, Kiwibird <3


Marian Report 31 Dec 2012 14:45

Thank you for looking Cherilyn, I'll investigate further. :-) Happy New Year to you too.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 31 Dec 2012 08:50

Hi Marian

Sorry I can't see them at all. Maybe they were adopted out, given their young age when mum Sarah died? If Jas could not cope (or certain ppl thought he couldn't/wasn't) then the children may have been taken into care. So names may have been changed, making it near impossible.

Nor can I find Jas Wm's death. Do you know where Eliza was buried? Worth checking Cheltenham Cemetery to see if she is there and if Jas is with her. Might give us more to go on. :-)

Happy New Year!


Marian Report 30 Dec 2012 15:56

Hi Cherilyn
Could you take a look at the Victoria records for me. James William Hill married Sarah Horsley in 1874. They had the following children:
Kizier 1874, Charles 1876, Jane 1878 - 1879, James 1879 – 1900, Henry 1881, Albert 1884 - 1884, Olive 1884 – 1884 and Sarah 1885. Sarah snr died 1885 and James remarried to Eliza Walsh nee Boyd. I have their marriage certificate. I cannot find any records for Kizier, Charles, Henry or Sarah and am wondering what could have happened to them. I know when Eliza died - 1929 - but not James. I did have a recent thread about James but not the above children. Thank you.

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 30 Dec 2012 03:42

Happy New Year everyone! :D


Gins Report 23 Dec 2012 11:09

Thanks C

I think Claire needs to buy some certificates

Gin x

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 23 Dec 2012 04:22

Thanks, Gins, had a go but didn't find much :-\

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 23 Dec 2012 04:18

Sorry Liz, no sign of him. It is possible he died on the way over. Pretty harsh conditions onboard in those days :(

Not sure how you could find out? Maybe order a copy of the passenger record from NSW Records online?


Gins Report 21 Dec 2012 16:57

Please could you cast your expert eye on this one

Thanks C :-)


GenieAngel Report 21 Dec 2012 08:24

Hi Cherilyn,

Could you please help me I am looking for any information on Nicholas Stubbersfield b 1808 London, parents Nicholas mother Mary Parker I found him in the 1841 as a grocer and not with any of his family, have not found him in any other census. I found that he went to NSW arrival was 7 Oct 1849 aboard the Sir Edwin Paget but have not managed to find anything further are you able to help please!!!

Thank you


Aspen Report 19 Dec 2012 10:39

Nudge, I was hoping to find something for Alexander Spence! It is so hard to find any info for him to date. Hopefully, I maybe lucky in the new year! :-D :-) :-( :-S

۞ Cherilyn ۞

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Sheila Report 3 Dec 2012 09:21

Thanks Cherilyn you are a star, you have the correct Herbert Baldock he had a brother Edward born 1893 when their father died his money was left to Edward no address just said he was a farmer, I have no idea where he went!! Sheila Fathers name Frederick Daniel Baldock