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Unable to find children's births. Updated.

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Jun 2026 17:34

On the image of the 1851 census (posted on 20 May by Alviegal),
Alfred's brother Thomas , 11, is said to have been born in Llangathoe, Brecon.

Presumably he would be with Alfred in 1841.

Google suggests "Llangathoe" is Llangattock in the Brecon Beacons.
That would be in Crickhowell reg district.

Possible birth??

DAVIES, THOMAS mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in CRICKHOWELL Volume 26 Page 298

But can't see him in 1841.

Kuros

Kuros Report 6 Jun 2026 16:27

I can't see him in 1841 either. I'm going to get a digital image of his birth to see exactly where he was living. The registration district was Crickhowell but the parish was Llangatwg (Llangattock when anglicised). This area is quite confusing and became Bedwellty later. Watch this space!

Annie

Kuros

Kuros Report 6 Jun 2026 16:34

Sadly, not our Thomas. This one's mother was Mary Davies, formerly Davies, of Tabor Meeting House, Brynmawr. Back to the old drawing board.

Annie

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Jun 2026 10:45

Of course there is the possibility that William & Elizabeth had married after Thomas' birth :-)

This appears to be the family in the 1861 Census

Name Elizabeth Davies
Age 46
Estimated Birth Year abt 1815 [abt 1815]
Relation Wife
Spouse's Name William Davies
Gender Female
Where born Presteigne, Radnorshire, Wales
Address: 25 Plantation Row
Civil Parish or Township Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish Tredegar
Town Ebbw Vale
County/Island Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Registration District Bedwelty
Sub-registration district Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel 47
Household schedule number 73
Neighbors
Piece 4005
Folio 41
Page number 12
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Davies 46 b Eardisley, Herefordshire occ Rail Sawyer
Elizabeth Davies 46 Wife b Presteigne, Radnorshire
Thomas Davies 20 Son Llangatock, Breconshire, Wales
James Davies 18 Son Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales
William Davies 16 Son Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Edward Davies 14 Son Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Elizabeth Davies 11 Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary A Davies 10 Daughter Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah A Brown 15 Servant Clandown, Somerset, England
Edward Hemfray 19 Lodger Llanidloes, Monmouthshire, Wales
David Hemfray 21 Brother Llanidloes, Monmouthshire, Wales

Kuros

Kuros Report 7 Jun 2026 12:35

Looking at that, it implies that David Hemfray is the brother of William Davies, or does it mean he was the brother of the lodger, Edward Hemfray? I think that's more likely because the birth places are different.

Annie

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 7 Jun 2026 13:09

I would think it means that Edward & David are brothers :-)