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Hi I'm trying to find out about Harold and his wife Ethel Eva Doreen Parkin. (in Canada)

Harold was born 15/08/1904 in Birmingham.
I have him on the 1911 census.
He sailed for Quebec on 06/05/1927

Ethel was born abt 1910 in kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham.

Harold and Ethel married in Canada ? when

I know there is information about these people on ancestry (World Wide membership but I don't have that). including 1931 Canada census, their marriage and death.

Can anyone with world wide membership on Ancestry please take a look for me. Any information would be really useful.

Harold is my Grand fathers brother.

Thanks

Harold in 1931:

Harold Chorley
in the 1931 Census of Canada
Name Harold Chorley
Gender Male
Nationality English
Racial Origin English
Marital Status Divorced <<<<<<<<<
Age 27
Estimated Birth Year abt 1904
Birth Place England
Immigration Date 1927
Residence Date 1931
Home in 1931 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Relation to Head Soldier
Father Birth Place England
Mother Birth Place England
Can Speak English Yes
Can Speak French No
Language Spoken as Mother Tongue English
Religion Anglican
Can Read and Write W
Occupation Soldier
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker
Income Iov
At Work on June 1st 1931 Yes
Section M
Municipality Town of Tuxedo
Enumeration District Winnipeg South
Sub-District Tuxedo (Town)
Sub-District Number 0040 - Tuxedo (Town)
Household Members (Name) Age Relation to Head
Harold Chorley 27 Soldier


??? Wrong DOB, but I don't see a birth to match:

Harold Albert Chorley
in the Canada, Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
Name Harold Albert Chorley
Gender Male
Birth Date 8 Aug 1904
Birth Place England
Death Date 7 Aug 1972
Death Place Tofino, Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District, British Columbia, Canada
Cemetery Seaview Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Tofino, Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District, British Columbia, Canada

ADDED:
Someone has added the following to the Findagrave record of that 1972 death:
"death registration 72-09-010919 states Harold was married to Doreen Parkin."

Another record of it:

Harold Albert Chorley
in the British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
Name Harold Albert Chorley
Gender Male
Birth Year abt 1905
Death Age 67
Death Date 7 Aug 1972
Death Location Tofino
Registration Number 1972-09-010919
BCA Number B13319
GSU Number 2050015




Your Harold's baptism, in case you don't have it:

Harold Albert Godfrey Chorley
in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1922
Name Harold Albert Godfrey Chorley
Baptism Date 31 Aug 1904
Baptism Place Bordesley, Holy Trinity, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears Bordesley, Holy Trinity
Father
Frederick Chorley, publican
Mother
Sarah Chorley

Address: 47 Henley Street

Ethel's father's obituary:

J. H. Parkin
in the Canada, Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current
Name J. H. Parkin
Gender Male
Residence Place 2066 Bluebell Terrace
Death Date Abt 1968
Obituary Date 5 Mar 1968
Obituary Place Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
Newspaper Title Nanaimo Daily News
Spouse
Annie
Child
John Henry Gordon Parkin
Ethel Eva Doreen Chorley
Siblings
Cyril Parkin
Gordon Parkin

The main points of the obituary:

James Henry Parkin, of 2066 Bluebell Terrace for the past four years . . . . died aged 80.
Born in Derbyshire, went to Canada in 1910, livid in Regina for 18 years, then at Ucluelet on Vancouver Island for 23 years.
Was "in the shoe business", retired in 1964. Fought in WW1 and WW2.

Ethel's address given as Nanaimo. Still living in 1968.


She's with her parents in 1931, before marriage to Harold (see next post)

Ethel Parkin
in the 1931 Census of Canada
Name Ethel Parkin
Gender Female
Nationality Canadian
Racial Origin English
Marital Status Single <<<<<<<<<<<<
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1911
Birth Place England
Immigration Date 1911
Residence Date 1931
Street Address 1535 Princess
Home in 1931 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Relation to Head Daughter
Father Birth Place England
Mother Birth Place England
Can Speak English Yes
Can Speak French No
Language Spoken as Mother Tongue English
Religion Presbyterian
Can Read and Write N
Occupation Clerk
Industry Telephone Co
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker
Income 720
At Work on June 1st 1931 Yes
Other Causes Out of Work W
Family Number 1000
Section M
Range 4
Municipality Regina City
Enumeration District Regina
Sub-District Regina (City)
Sub-District Number 0019 - Regina (City)
Materials of Construction Stone
Household Members (Name) Age Relation to Head
James H Parkin 46 Head
Annie Parkin 46 Wife
Ethel Parkin 20 Daughter

Ethel Doreen Parkin
in the Canada, Newspapers.com™ Marriage Index, 1800s-current
Name Ethel Doreen Parkin
Gender Female
Residence Date Abt 1940
Residence Place Regina
Marriage Date 22 Jun 1940
Father
James H. Parkin
Mother
Parkin
Spouse
Harold Godfrey Chorley
Siblings
Gordon Parkin

So Harold had been married before, as he's listed as divorced in 1931.

3 trees on Ancestry which have him in - none give a marriage date.

The Chorley family tree, held by a Jane Richards says that he died 7 August 1972 Tofino, Alberta-Clayoquat Regional District, British Columbia and was buried there.

Only 1 names Ethel but no death shown for her.

Harold n 1921 , you don't mention you have the record.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
85, Hingeston Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Harry Paddock Head Male 1889 31 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Manager Outdoor Bar Licence Mitchells & Butler Ltd Bham Brewers
Eugenie Paddock Wife Female 1884 36 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Domestic 85 Hingeston St Outdoor Bar House
Edwin Chorley Brother-in-law Male 1899 22 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Jewellers Case Maker Heinstlo Jewel Case Makers
Harold Chorley Brother-in-law Male 1904 16 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Carpenters Apprentice Whitehouse & Son Builders
Godfrey Chater Uncle, wife Male 1871 49 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Tube Bender Perpecta Tube Works Aston

Just a slight possibility -

Ethel MAY have died 25 Sept 1970 - if she reverted to her maiden name, and the informant got her age wrong !!:

BC Archives
Genealogy - General Search
Event Type: Death
Registration Number: 1970-09-013089
BC Archives Mfilm Number: B13306
GSU Mfilm Number: 2034214
Event Date (YYYY-MM-DD):
1970-09-25
Event Place:NANAIMO
Age at Death:77
Person:ETHEL PARKIN
Vital Stat Images(s):
004479314_00108.jpg


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EDIT:

NO! Wrong woman!
that Ethel was nee Berisford and married to a Walter Parkin..

Thanks you so much ArgyllGran and greyghost for all that inforamtion. It will be very useful to me.

You both have been really kind.

I didn't know Harold had been divorced. I will have to look into that.

Thank you

Thanks greyghost. I didn't have him on the 1921 census

Thanks again both of you for all your help.

Jane

1911 Census For England & Wales
67 the Hill Kirkby - in - Ashfield Nottinghamshire, Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Henry Parkin Head Married Male 24 1887 Boot and shoe mnfr Derby Derbyshire
Annie Maria Parkin Wife Married Female 21 1890 - Shutlanger Northants
John Henry Gordon Parkin Son - Male 4 1907 - Kirkby in Ashfield
Ethel Eva Doreen Parkin Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Kirkby in Ashfield
George Herbert Myatt Boarder Single Male 29 1882 Railway servant Barton under Northwood

James and annie had been married 5 years and had 2 children born, both still living,

Ethel was shown as 6 months old on the 1911 census return which was taken on 2nd april 1911

Ethel's birth registration Q4 1910
Name: ........................................Mother's Maiden Surname:
PARKIN, ETHEL EVA DOREEN KIGHAM
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 181

Thanks greyghost. I didn't have that information either.

Jane

IGNORE the possible death in 1970 -

on further investigation, that Ethel was nee Berisford, and married to a Walter Parkin.

Thanks jink20 for trying to help me. That's not my Harold..

All the best

Jane

Looks like Her Mother's maiden name was Higham, not Kigham as per her birth reg.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PARKIN, JOHN HENRY GORDON HIGHAM
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 177


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
Higham Annie Marie Basford 7b 228
Parkin James Henry Basford 7b 228

greyghost you are amazing.

You're finding so much information for me.

All the best

Jane

Harold's emigration, as mentioned by Jane - he's listed as single:

Harold Chorley
in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name Harold Chorley
Gender Male
Arrival Age 22
Birth Year abt 1905
Birth Country England
Departure Port Liverpool, England
Arrival Date 14 May 1927
Arrival Port Quebec, Canada
Vessel Aurania

Single, born Birmingham, a carpenter, intending to be a farmer in Canada.
NOK: Brother, Mr Chorley, 178 Churchill Road, Bordesley, Birmingham.

Re 1931 Census - although the transcription says Harold was divorced, on the actual document I think it says he was single.

There's a mark across the S which makes it look like a D.


Re Osborne Barracks, where he was in 1931:

https://heritagewinnipeg.com/blogs/military-maneuvers-remembering-for/

Thanks ArgyllGran

That means his first marriage was also in Canada.

1927 - So he was a carpenter, intending to be a farmer. He seems to be changing his job quite often. I wonder if he ever did farming.
1931 He was a soldier. I wonder what made him decide to be a soldier.

Jane

Harold Godfrey Chorley
in the Canada, Newspapers.com™ Marriage Index, 1800s-current
View imageCanada, Newspapers.com™ Marriage Index, 1800s-current
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Name Harold Godfrey Chorley
Gender Male
Residence Date Abt 1940
Residence Place Birmingham , England
Residence Place 2 Regina
Residence Place 3 27 Grenfell Apartments
Marriage Date 22 Jun 1940
Father A. Chorley
Mother Chorley
Spouse Ethel Doreen Parkin

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Sorry - I don't have a sub to newspapers.com

Thanks for putting me straight on the 1831 re Harold being divorced. He left it quite late to get married. He would have been aged 36yrs in 1940.