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Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 2 Feb 2010 23:00

I'm absolutely blown away by all this.

How on earth did you find it all?

And every part of it is absolutely right.

I'm so annoyed with myself that I still can't make the Lancs OPC site work for myself!!

I've tried briefly to find Alice, and can't find either her birth or her death. Ancestry??

So the little boy went to live with his maternal grandparents because I guess they thought that it was unlikely that his widowed papa would remarry. But, in truth, he did - and to my Great Great Aunt!! They went on to have three children but sadly she died giving birth to the third who miraculously survived. She has a beautiful white marble headstone in the very pretty churchyard where he was the Rector until his death.

You are a wonder. I would really appreciate it if you could give me some tips as to how you did this. What made you go on to the Lancs OPC site, I wonder? I was convinced that they had stayed out in St. Petersburg, so wrong again . . .

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've never seen your name on these Threads before - what drew you to my one??!!

Nicola

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 2 Feb 2010 23:08

Will have to sign off soon - day job tomorrow!

Can't wait for next instalment and to hear from you Jooleh.

Nicola

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 2 Feb 2010 23:28

Ha ha - what draws anyone to a particular thread? For me it's usually the title but I avoid those that say desperately seeking when lots of people have worked hard to help and either the poster hasn't come back or they aren't making much effort to find for themselves.

I use Lancashire freebmd a lot because you sometimes get a lead on a mother's maiden name.

Now the lancs opc I have used infrequently because I thought you needed to know which parish to search, until last night when I found a link to it for searching the whole county.

If the link I posted doesn't work just google

'lancashire opc ancestor search' and it should come up.

I would love to spend a whole lot more time doing this but I work long hours. If I'm posting on a thread it means I've hit a bit of a lull with my own tree!

It's an addiction. I let my membership lapse for a while hoping I'd get on more with my own stuff but it didn't stop me reading threads and being frustrated at not being able to join in so I rejoined!

Let me know if you still can't get the right link to lancs opc. Keep us posted on anything else you find

Julie

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 3 Feb 2010 00:10

From IGI:

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index
British Isles

ALINE MARY BOOTH

Event(s):
Birth: 28 FEB 1854

Christening: 21 MAY 1854 Saint Stephen,Salford, , Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN EDWD BOOTH Family
Mother: ELIZBTH TUNDER


Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 7 Feb 2010 15:13

Again, I'm so very grateful to those who looked 'outside the box' on this one for me.

I'm amazed at what has been found by you all.

I am snowed under with various other things at the moment and haven't had the time to reply to you individually to ask how/where you found this data. Please can I come back to you when I surface?

Many, many thanks and 'talk' to you soon.

Nicola

Susan

Susan Report 10 Feb 2010 19:46

Hi Nicola, I live only a few miles from Cartmel priory, in Ulverston where her death was registered. so what made me pick this thread!!!!!!!! SPOOKY!
When you come back to this, if you need any nosing around in the churchyard doing, get back to me.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 11 Feb 2010 23:55

Susan -

That is such a kind offer. Thank you.

I'm just back from a trip away and will get my head around all these revelations over the weekend.

I live in North Staffordshire, so am also not that far away. And I have a pretty shrewd suspicion that there are more family graves in that general area. I love a good poke around a churchyard!!

I'll return to this thread over the weekend. If you haven't seen it, I'll pm you if I may?

Thank you again.

Nicola

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 25 May 2015 16:50

Hello out there!
I don't know if anyone is still looking at this thread but there is a ps to this fascinating story.
Elizabeth isn't buried at Cartmel. When we visited the priory itself we had a look in the register and in the margin of their register is a tiny entry against her name which says 'Lindale'. Lindale is a few miles away.
So off we trotted to St. Paul's church in Lindale and began to search the graveyard. Lo and behold, the very first grave as you enter the graveyard is a multiple grave to Elizabeth, her little son and also her mother!! The monument isn't in a very good state as many of the graves are on a steep hillside and they have started to crumble. But at last we have found them and the story ends there.
Now I am preparing a little biopic for the Vicar of St. Paul's as his request. :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 25 May 2015 20:12

From Lewis (1848):
LINDALE, a chapelry, in the township of Upper Allithwaite, parish of Cartmel, union of Ulverston, hundred of Lonsdale north of the Sands, N. division of Lancashire, 10 miles (W. by S.) from Milnthorpe...etc
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-dict/england

I also looked up Cartmel and was interested to see that the prioy, "besides many privileges, among which was the exclusive right of appointing guides to conduct travellers over the extensive sands that bound the parish on the south".


Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Burial: 3 Nov 1855 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Booth -
Age: 30
Abode: Yewbarrow Lodge, Grange
Buried by: J Young
Performed at: Lindale Chapel
Register: Burials 1853 - 1869 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 34, Entry 272
Source: LDS Film 1040300

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 25 May 2015 20:31

Hello mgnv! We've met before, but not on this thread.
When we visit Silverdale again in a month's time, we are hoping to make the walk across the bay from there to Grange over Sands. What a fascinating entry to read about the Priory. Thank you.
Nicola
:-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 25 May 2015 20:42

Re using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Click on the search or the parishes link - here, since you'ld told me Cartmel, I chose prishes, then Cartmel, guessed a church, and looked up Booth burials.
Even if I choose search, I like to check the entry out via the parish link - the index lists other events of the same BMD type with folk having the same surname. Marrs, too, are worth checking - you can see if some unknown witness apears on 90% of the time-adjacent marrs, and can be considered a professional witness, maybe the parish clerk or a mate/rellie of his. Occassionally an unknown surname is a relly of yours - my g gran had a strange surname as a witness - it turned out to be her bro-in-law, and once I looked up marrs for him, I recognized a butchered recording of the family surname as her lost sister - you'ld think a relatively unusual name like Hesmondhalgh would be easy to research, but what you actually find is that it's even easier to mistranscribe.

mgnv

mgnv Report 25 May 2015 21:00

Hi Nicola - not that it's really relevant, but my bro studied oceanography, and on a field trip to Morecombe Bay, he and a fellow student were out on the sands, measuring something or other, and not keeping an eye on the tide. They got trapped out there almost a mile off-shore - fortunately, there was a guy on shore who'd been watching these 2 idiots, and when they started waving, he rowed out and rescued them - the water was up to their waists by then. They paid the guy 15 GBP - all the money they had on them - well it they were students in the early 1970s. Half an hour later, their van came by and picked them up, and they got ribbed all the way home.