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Thank you, Rootgatherer.

I am still working on this thread, and have just received a copy of the birth registration of Agnes Kaines BRADLEY. Her mother was Caroline BRADLEY, so I can at least add her to the correct mother in my tree.

Still haven't located a death record for Agnes, so my last known record of her is the 1939 Register.

I will try contacting Stephanie in a personal message.

Thank you again,

Yvonne

Mary's mother in 1939? If so it says she is single.


Bradley Household (1 Person)
Cross Park Melrose , Newton Abbot R.D., Devon, England

Agnes K Bradley
DOB 16 Mar 1879
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 19
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1
Ref: RG101/6877A/004/26 Letter Code: WHRY
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I realise that this is an old thread and Yvonne would be better to send Stephanie a personal message as Stephanie may no longer to looking for answers.

In case it's useful, here is Mary on the 1939 register


Pike Household (2 People)
73 Chudleigh Road , Newton Abbot R.D., Devon, England

Mary W Tomasett (Pike)
DOB 07 Oct 1908
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 37
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2


Sidney H Pike
DOB 29 Nov 1908
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Tile Worker Potteries
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 37
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

There are no closed records on the image, so possibly no children born before 1939

Stephanie,

Did you ever resolve this line of BRADLEY?

I am coming down the other way, and think we might meet up with Agnes Kaines BRADLEY.

I am tracking the descendants of Henry BRADLEY (bap 1797, Ropley Hants) and Mary Ann GRIFFIN (bc 1802, Micheldever Hants).

Agnes is described as the niece of Thomas BELL and his wife Martha (nee BRADLEY, and youngest child of Henry and Mary Ann) in the 1891 census, but without the birth certificate, I haven't worked out which of Martha's sisters gave birth to Agnes.

Would love to see how we can help each other,

Yvonne

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Births Dec 1908 (>99%)
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Bradley Mary Hendon 3a 278



1911

RG14PN108 RD2 SD1 ED21 SN84
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington South
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 21
Address: 15 Queens Gate Terrace S Kensington S W
County: London

BRADLEY, Agnes Head Married F 32 1879 Caretaker London Kensington
>>>BRADLEY, Mary Daughter F 2 1909 London Willesden green

i saw the birth of Agnes Kaines Bradley also, now this is the name of the witness on Mary's marriage certificate to Sydney Pike in 1932, it was assumed that this was Mary's mother?

i am completely stuck as to where to go from here, i am currently looking through all registers from 1904 to 1910 for birth of Mary wynne bradley

1891 Agnes kaines bradley with Aunt Martha nee Bradley born Micheldever 1841 to henry and Mary Ann Bradley.

Henry born @ 1800 in Ropley Hampshire and Mary Ann @ 1806 Mitcheldever.
They had Mary Ann @ 1835
Susan @ 1836
Caroline @ 1838
Martha 1841

Martha Bradley married Thomas bell O/N/D 1881 in Winchester Hampshire.

Maryb.

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Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Bradley Philip H O Kaines Chelsea 1a 651



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: Philip H O Bradley
Spouse Surname: Oliver
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 2200
Find Spouse: Florence L Oliver



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Philip Harry O Bradley
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1911
Date of Registration: Jan 1993
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Abingdon
Inferred County: Berkshire, Oxfordshire
Register Number: 20B
District and Subdistrict: 6971
Entry number: 51

just posting for clues!

1881


RG number: RG11
Piece: 1243
Folio: 81
Page: 3
Reg. District: Alresford
Sub District: Ropley
Parish: Tichborne
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: ?, Tichborne
County: Hampshire

SMITH, Charlotte Head Widow F 39 1842
Westbourne, Sussex
SMITH, William Son Single M 14 1867 Domestic Servant
Swarrington, Hampshire
SMITH, Olive Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
Swarrington, Hampshire
SMITH, Frank Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Swarrington, Hampshire
SMITH, Charlotte Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Swarrington, Hampshire
>>>>BRADLEY, Agnes Kaines Nurse Child Single F 2 1879
London Kensington, London, Middlesex


possibly -

1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 934
Folio: 41
Page: 27
Reg. District: Winchester
Sub District: Micheldever
Parish: Micheldever
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: Micheldever
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Church Street, Micheldever
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BELL, Thomas Head Married M 45 1846 Masons Labourer
East Stratton, Hampshire
BELL, Martha Wife Married F 43 1848
Micheldever, Hampshire
>>>>>BRADLEY, Agnes Niece F 10 1881
Kensington, London

Is there ANY evidence that Henry Bradley exists ?

Wouldn't be the first to invent a father on marriage certificates

just found birth of Phillip Bradley in yorkshire in 1909 ? possibly mary's brother

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Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Bradley Agnes Kaines Kensington 1a 83

Marriages Jun 1951

PIKE Mary W -TOMPSETT- Thirsk 1b 1472
TOMPSETT JOHN A - PIKE - Thirsk 1b

yes i've seen those too, i just found a 1911 census record for an agnes and mary showing mary's age as 2 and mother agnes as 32, agnes is listed as being married for 3 years but not showing husband on page mother occupation is shown as Caretaker

All trees ( except one ) show DOB as Oct 1908.
But not seeing a birth on freebmd under Bradley or Wynne


Mary Wynne Bradley
Birth 07 OCT 1908
Death 1995 - Australia



One has DOB as 1905

Mary Wynn Bradley
[Mary Wynne Bradley]
Birth: 07 Oct 1905 (7 Oct 1905)
Death: 06 Oct 1995 (6 Oct 1995)
Marriage: 1951 - Thirsk, England
Parents: Henry Bradley, Agnes Bradley
Spouse: John Alexander Tompsett

ok, still looking for information regarding Mary - i have her marriage certificate to Sydney Herbert Pike, shows her age at 23 in 1932 therefore year of birth 1908/1909 - her father is listed as Henry Bradley Deceased, the witnesses were A Pike (sydney's father Andrew Pike (gardener)) and Agnes K (could say Kaines) bradley - we believe that this was Mary's mother, still cannot find her on the 1911 census -
another pair of eyes may help for 1911 census, it is believed she had a brother Philip

stephanie
p.s - as regards to the possible 3 sons born to pike/bradley, these are not mary/sidney but another pike/bradley as i applied for copy of the birth certificate for one of the children and parents were Dorothy Elizabeth Pike formerly Bradley and William Harry Pike

Well, i just tried what you said about the 1911 census, found a henry bradley living in kent with wife agnes and his occupation is general labourer in building trade - could be then that mary was not born yet as there are no children listed and shows no children born so maybe this is them as its within the right area

thank you for your help

Have you tried searching the 1911 census for a Bradley using the keywords Civil Engineer please?

Have you considered that her birth may not be registered as Bradley? Perhaps her mother re-married and Bradley is the step father's surname.

Have you considered buying the Bradley / Pike marriage certificates to check the details that she gives for her father on that?

anyone?