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Gillian .................


I do believe that none of the records found for you were on GR .................


the usual sites member helpers use are ancestry and findmypast

Somewhat belatedly I have returned having had a glich with my research. - Called summer and holidays and it has remained untouched. I would like to thank you all very much for your assistance. I don't think i am very good at all this on this site as I don't use it enough. Without your assistance i would never have obtained the information that you have provided me with.
Once again many thanks.
Gillian

Canadian USA crossing. Peter H Roberts, Emma D and Ivy M. Thank you for your assistance :-)

Canadian/USA Crossing. Peter H Roberts, Emma D, and Ivy M. thanks you for all assistance :-)

But she went home to UK at some point:


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Ivy Rix Jones
Name: Ivy Rix Jones
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1905
Date of Registration: Mar 1979
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: South east Hampshire
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1903

Could well be, MC.

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Ivy Rix Jones
Name: Ivy Rix Jones
Arrival Date: 28 Nov 1949
Port of Arrival: Port Angeles, Washington, USA
Age: 44
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1905
Birth Place: Liverpool, England
Birth Country: England
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Her middle name is also the middle name of one of her grand-daughters.
It gives her address as 101 Foster Ave, Oakland.

I wonder if this is the girls' mother?

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Ivy Jones
Name: Ivy Jones
Residence Year: 1956
Street address: 849 16th
Residence Place: Oakland, California
Publication Title: Oakland, California, City Directory, 1956

If it is, then she's at the same address in 1954 & 1955

???

1940 United States Federal Census about Robert Douglas
Name: Robert Douglas
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1924
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: California
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1940: National City, San Diego, California
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: 3 Avenue
House Number: 1275
Inferred Residence in 1935: San Diego, San Diego, California
Residence in 1935: San Diego, San Diego, California
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 8B
Occupation: Student
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Douglas 36
Ethel Douglas 35
Robert Douglas 16
Dona Mae Douglas 9
William Douglas 7

Was Doris a GI bride??


U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 about Robert S Douglas
Name: Robert S Douglas
Birth Year: 1924
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: California
State of Residence: California
County or City: San Diego

Enlistment Date: 25 Nov 1942
Enlistment State: California
Enlistment City: Fort Rosecrans
Branch: Signal Corps
Branch Code: Signal Corps
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life
Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Skilled motion picture projectionists
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 68
Weight: 138




U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 about Robert S Douglas
Name: Robert S Douglas
Service Info.: US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1924
Death Date: 28 Jul 1997
Cemetery: Lone Tree Cemetery Association
Cemetery Address: 24591 Fairview Avenue Hayward, CA 94542

I know, how sad. When you enlarge the image of the headstone I think it was just one day apart.

California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Robert Schirrmann Douglas
Social Security #: 562265495
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Feb 1924
Birth Place: California
Death Date: 28 Jul 1997
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Chandler

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Name: Robert S. Douglas
SSN: 562-26-5495
Last Residence: 94578 San Leandro, Alameda, California, USA
BORN: 6 Feb 1924
Died: 28 Jul 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Interestingly, and sadly, from that billiongraves link posted by MC, Robert and Doris died only four days apart.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Doris Douglas
Name: Doris Douglas
Arrival Date: 10 Feb 1946
Birth Date: abt 1925
Age: 21
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary

Travelling with a 1 yr old daughter, whom I won't name, as she could still be alive. Mind you, so could Emma.
(EDIT: Daughter born in Hawarden reg district)

Address 101 Foster Ave, Oakland:


Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about Mrs Doris Douglas
Name: Mrs Doris Douglas
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1948
Port of Arrival: Port Angeles, Washington, USA
Age: 23
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1924
Birth Place: Cosdporth ,Wales
Birth Country: Wales
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards

Arrived in US on "Queen Mary" 10/02/1946

According to a tree on ancestry, this is Doris' death:

1997 27 Jul
Age: 69
San Leandro, Alameda, California, USA

ADDED: Found the records

California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Doris Douglas [Doris Jones]
Social Security #: 555384461
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1927
Birth Place: Other Country
Death Date: 27 Jul 1997
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: While
Father's Surname: Jones

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current
Name: Doris Douglas
SSN: 555-38-4461
Last Residence: 94578 San Leandro, Alameda, California, USA
BORN: 5 Nov 1924
Died: 27 Jul 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/dorisJonesdouglas/4440626

???

Marriages Mar 1944 (>99%)
DOUGLAS Robert S Jones W.Cheshire 8a 858
JONES Doris Douglas W.Cheshire 8a 858

I suspect this may be the other daughter, with the mmn mis-recorded:

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1928
Jones Doris Wilde Wrexham 11b 373

Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Jones Thomas M V While Wrexham 11b 457

Births Sep 1929 (>99%)
Jones Emma D While Wrexham 11b 389

Don't see another daughter who could be the married one in Oakland.


I've told Gillian several times, in PM replies to her PM's, how to find her thread and post a reply. I hope she will after her week away.

Wonder if perhaps Thomas & Ivy R Jones were Emma's parents?
The baby daughter was given her grandmother's name.

Marriages Jun 1946 (>99%)
Jones Emma D Roberts Wrexham 11b 669
Roberts Peter H Jones Wrexham 11b 669

Marriages Dec 1923 (>99%)
Jones Thomas While Wrexham 11b 536
WHILE Ivy R Jones Wrexham 11b 536

I wonder if that's why they didn't make the first voyage Margee?


Hopefully Gillian will return to pick up this information.

I feel sorry for poor Emma, being pregnant and going through a sea voyage with the seasickness then going through a train trip from the east coast to the west, over 3,000 miles!