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London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Phoebe Barber Name: Phoebe Barber
Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1799
Parish: St Dionis Backchurch
County: London
Borough: City of London
Parent(s): Thomas Barber,
Phoebe Barber
Record Type: Christening
Register Type: Parish Register

Born 5 May 1799.

ancestry transcription for the 1805 one, image seems to say barber (just in case)

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 about Phoebe Barber
Name: Phoebe Barber
Baptism Date: 21 Jul 1805
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Parent(s): Joseph Barber,
Catherine Barber
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

still can't seem to find a marriage to jackson

there is a tree on ancestry and on family search but neither have her maiden name.
maddie

Hi all

Have just found the following:-

Ancestry LMA
births 1813 - 1906
St. George the Martyr, Southwark
Mary Daffen Jackson
25th December, 1821, born 17th August, 1819
parents John Jackson, seaman, and Phebe

there is also a brother
John Lloyd Jackson
4th July, 1821, born ? April 181?

Just have to find her marriage!

nice find.
I wonder if they did marry ???
Maddie

Also recorded as Daffan


Name:
Mary Daffan Jackson

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:25 Dec 1820

Father's Name:John Jackson

Mother's name:Phébe Jackson

Parish or Poor Law Union:St George the Martyr

Borough:Southwark

Register Type:Parish Registers

Name:
John Lloyd Jackson

Birth Date:3 Apr 1821
Baptism Date:4 Jul 1821
Baptism Place:St. George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey, England
Father: John Jackson
Mother: Phebe Jackson

She must have married young.


Name:
Caroline Lloyd Jackson

Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:7 Aug 1816

Father's Name:John Jackson
Mother's name:Phoebe Caroline Jackson

Parish or Poor Law Union:St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Borough:Kensington and Chelsea

Register Type:Parish Registers

Trouble is they may not all be the same family.
For instance this child was christened after 1822


Name:John Jackson

Baptism Date:21 May 1824

Baptism Place:
Skelton By Guisborough,York,England <<<<<<

Father: John Jackson
Mother: Phoebe

And another sister:-

Caroline Lloyd Jackson
baptised 7th August, 1816,
St. Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
parents John Jackson and Phoebe Caroline
father seaman, from Kensington Place

England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers


Amry Jackson ... ( think that should read MARY) see below

Birth Date:Abt 1819

Event Type:Baptism

Father:John Jackson
Mother:Pheby Jackson

Baptism Date:26 Aug 1819

Baptism Place:Holborn, Middlesex, England

: Holborn, British Lying-In Hospital Endell Street:

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: Registers of Births, Holborn, British Lying-In Hospital Endell Street

Date of order of admission

11th Aug 1819 ... or could be 11th June
Jackson Pheby, wife of John - seaman - aged 22
settlement : ( looks like ) New Castle something

Came in Mid Aug
Went out on leave 17th Aug

delivered 17th August - Girl
Baptised 26th Aug - Mary

discharged 6th Sept
Recommender : Sarah Dolby ?

Hi Mike

Many thanks. Sadly I think I have found John's death. Buried 19/01/1819 at St. George the Martyr, Southwark. From Kent Road as in the baptism of Mary in 1820.

From John's age it is possible that this was a second marriage.

It looks as though Mary was baptised twice - possibly Phoebe had recovered a little from her birth and the previous death of her husband and had Mary baptised again on Christmas Day 1820.

Are the hospital records on Ancestry or Find My Past?

Thanks again

Have also found the deaths of Mary, aged 2, and Caroline, aged 1.

Still looking for anything more on John Lloyd Jackson.

Deaths Jun 1839 (>99%)
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BRIGDEN Alfred Richard Greenwich 5 143


Baptism
County Kent
Place Plumstead
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 1128
DateOfBirth 08 Dec 1838
BaptismDate 24 Feb 1839
Forename Alfred Richard
Sex M
FatherForename Richard
MotherForename Hales
FatherSurname BRIGDEN
MotherSurname
Abode Plumstead
FatherOccupation Labourer

(not sure Hales?)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above, also below)


Baptisms 24 Jul 1831 BRIGDEN Charles Kent Plumstead Father Surname
Baptisms 30 Oct 1831 BRIGDEN Caroline Ann Kent Plumstead Father Surname
Baptisms 26 May 1833 BREGDEN Harriet Kent Plumstead Father Surname

Chris :)

Hi Chris

From a contact it appears that the second wife of Richard - Alice Nowland was also known as "Hales". Alice and Richard married in 1845 in Greenwich.

just to stick my oar in, could anyone else read the name on the marriage record as BARLING ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6V2-J3X

Name: Phebe Caroline Barling
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 08 Jan 1797
Christening Place: Chatham, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Barling
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02178-8

brother Nathaniel Joseph 1794
... actually possibly numerous other children 1776 to 1797 in Chatham

wrong area though ... but possibly a place to have met a seaman perhaps in the navy?

however several people have both this Phoebe and this Nathaniel and the others in their trees here at genesreunited

I'm actually tempted to read it as Anthony :-)


I suspect Phoebe Barbey is Barber

Joseph Barber and Catherine had other children baptised 1801, 1808, 1810 in Lambeth


also for info re son John Lloyd Jackson

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JM4G-VFJ

has dob as 3 April 1818, christened 4 July 1821

whereas Mary Daffen Jackson was born 17 August 1819 and christened 25 December 1820

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J39D-668

unusual for the child born earlier to be christened later ?

possibly John Lloyd was not a son of John Jackson and Phoebe took the opportunity to christen him after John's death ... although still why not at the same time as Mary?


ah ... the christening of Mary at the lying-in hospital would likely be because the child was not expected to live, I think - a 'private christening'

christenings were not supposed to be re-done in that case but many were

Lying- in hospital record is on ancestry.

Still wondering what "Settlement : New Castle " meant in hospital records.

Is this where Phebe is from or where she was going after discharge

and what is " Recommender : Sarah Dolby " all about ?

For info. about 'recommender':

Women were admitted in the last month of their pregnancy - they were only permitted to stay for three weeks - and needed a letter of recommendation from a subscriber (patients were not charged by the Hospital) and an affidavit of their marriage and their husband's settlement.

Firstly, many many thanks to Joonie Cloonie! From her suggestion of the name BARLING I started looking at the Barling family and found the following on a submitted tree on Familysearch.org:-

11th September, 1773, St. Nicholas, Rochester, Kent, England, the marriage between
John Barling and Mary DAFFORNE

There is also more information regarding John's ancesters.

Just keep on searching - never give up - they are all there somewhere!

Once again - thanks

well my goodness, blast from the past ... on rereading I think I -almost- follow what I did :-)

that certainly makes sense ... I think!

yes indeed - try, try and try again :-)