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 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 14:48

I have an aunt Mary Ann Higginbottom born 1887 in Newbold Derbyshire.

I am trying to find the right marriage for her as I have sent for 3 marriage certs and they are all wrong.

I thought that with Grandma (Catherine Hgginbottom)being ill and dying in 1931 then she would have still been at home looking after her,

She was still at home with her parents and siblings in 1911 age 24

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cartledge Holmesfield Sheffield, Holmesfield, Derbyshire, England

household transcription
Household Members

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation

Alfred Higginbottom Head Married Male 50 1861 Derbys Brampton Coal Miner Hewer


Catherine Higginbottom Wife Married Female 44 1867 Derbys Newbold -

~~~~~~~~Mary Higginbottom Daughter Single Female 24 1887 Derbys Newbold Servant Domestic ~~~~~~~~~~


Alfred Higginbottom Son - Male 13 1898 Derbys Holmesfield School Part Time Assist Green Grocer


Florrie Higginbottom Daughter - Female 8 1903 Derbys Holmesfield -


John Higginbottom Son - Male 4 1907 Derbys Holmesfield


Mary's parents were Alfred and Catherine Higginbottom.Grandad was a Coal Miner(Hewer)

So if anyone can be of a help finding the right marriage I would be really grateful as there are that many Mary Higginbottom's on Freebmd between 1911 and 1935.

Thanks in Advance.

Sue

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 27 Aug 2014 15:19

If all else fails...

It might be an idea to purchase a copy of Catherine's death cert.

Mary Ann might have been the informant and her surname will tell you if she was married at that time or not.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 15:58

PH,

I have got a copy of Catherine's and Alfred's death certs but neither of them mention Mary's name.

It was my Aunt Florence who registered Grandma's death and Uncle John who registered Grandad's death both youngest of my aunt's and uncle's

Thanks for the suggestion.

Always appreciated.

Sue

Dea

Dea Report 27 Aug 2014 16:37

Are you sure she was 'Mary Ann' ??

There is no birth reg for a 'Mary Ann' - only this one in the right area??

Births Sep 1887
HIGGINBOTTOM Mary Ellen Chesterfield 7b 691

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 27 Aug 2014 16:40

Ahhh - so she was born 'Mary Ann Titlow' ??

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cartledge Lane, Holmesfield, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Higginbottom Head Married Male 39 1862 Coal Hewer Underground Brampton, Derbyshire
Catherine Higginbottom Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Newbold, Derbyshire
Mary Ann Titlow Step Daughter Single Female 14 1887 General Servant (Domestic) Newbold, Derbyshire
Henry Peter Higginbottom Son - Male 12 1889 - Newbold, Derbyshire
Willis Higginbottom Son - Male 9 1892 - Whittington, Derbyshire
Alice May Higginbottom Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Cutthorpe, Derbyshire
Alfred Higginbottom Son - Male 3 1898 - Holmesfield, Derbyshire


'If' she lived to a 'good age', her date of birth may help us to find a death.

Births Jun 1887
Titlow Mary Ann Chesterfield 7b 712


Dea x

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 17:07

Dea,

Sorry forgot to say she was born Titlow but grandparents only used it for the first year after she was born then they put Higginbottom down EXCEPT FOR THE 1901 for the censuses.

I have looked at Titlow marriages for Derbyshire and there are none.

Sue

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Aug 2014 17:09

Good spot Dea

That fits with possible marriage of parents in 1887

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 27 Aug 2014 17:18

Sue could you please let us know which marriages were incorrect.

Chris

Gritty

Gritty Report 27 Aug 2014 17:19

And also- do you know for sure that she was married?

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 17:20

Glitter,

My grandparents married in September 1887 and Mary was born February 1887

Dea

Dea Report 27 Aug 2014 17:22

As a 'general servant' she could have moved to any part of the Country or even further !!

So, if she married it wouldn't necessarily have been in Derbyshire :-(

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 27 Aug 2014 17:31

I expect you already have them but there are army service records for another child of Alfred and Catherine on Ancestry - 'Willis' c 1892 who was sadly killed in action in 1917. :-(

Dea x

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 17:34

Chrissie.

Sept 1927 to Bradshaw.

June 1934 to Frisby thats in Eccleshall as they lived down the road on 1 census.

Dec 1946 to Sharpe

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 17:43

Dea the birth you have above for Mary Ann Titlow is wrong.Mary was born 26th February 1887 and registered by her mother on 30 April 1887.

That is another branch of the family.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 17:48

Gritty,

There are no deaths for either Mary A Titlow or Mary A Higginbottom in Derbyshire from 1911 to 1965.

And I honestly think that she wouldn't have moved away from Derbyshire until afer her parents were dead.

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 27 Aug 2014 17:48

If the birth was registered on 30th April 1887 it would fall in the Jun q therefore the birth Dea found would be the correct one.

Chris

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 27 Aug 2014 17:52

Name: Mary A Higginbottom
Spouse Surname: Brown
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Glossop
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1900
Records on Page:
Name
John Brown
John Coote
Ada Greenwood
Mary A Higginbottom


Name: Mary A Higginbottom
Spouse Surname: Sharpe
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chesterfield
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1644
Records on Page:
Name
Mary A Higginbottom
Francis J Knight
Eliza J Sharpe
Herbert Sharpe
Francis J Wright

Chris

Chrissie2394

Chrissie2394 Report 27 Aug 2014 17:58

Possible death if the Mary A Higginbottom married Herbert Sharpe in Dec q 1913

Name: Mary A Sharpe
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Dec 1952
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 178

Chris

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 27 Aug 2014 17:58

Chrissie,

I have taken another chance and sent for the 1913 marriage to Sharpe.

Keeping my fingers crossed that this one maybe the right one,it's costing a fortune for Mary and the others have been right 1st time.

Thabks All for all your help.

Sue

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Aug 2014 18:20

Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Mary Ann
Last name Higginbottom
Marriage year 1913
Parish St.Swithin
Place Holmesfield
Spouse's first name Herbert
Spouse's last name Sharpe
Reference PC31/01/180
Register Office 393
County Derbyshire
Country England
Record set Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index

(other)

First name(s) Mary Alice
Last name Higginbottom
Marriage year 1913
Parish All Saints
Place Glossop
Spouse's first name John
Spouse's last name Brown

Chris :)